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Nice anecdotal strawman, so here's my contrary experience: I have owned iphones and android devices and never encased them nor broken them.

by enneff 13y ago

freehunter 13y ago
Anecdotal strawman? It's hardly anecdotal to say that the Lumia, being made of solid polycarbonate plastic, can withstand impacts more than an iPhone made of glass and rigid metal. There are multiple YouTube tests that show how much force a Lumia 920 can withstand without breaking. Your example is an anecdote, since there are many forms of proof that the iPhone is quite fragile as well as, for example, the Nexus 4. (anecdote: I shattered my Nexus 4 dropping it from a window sill onto carpet) Likewise, how is it a strawman? The original comment was that the person doesn't care about thinner because it becomes thicker when you put a case on it. A phone that doesn't need a case need only be thinner than a comparable phone with a case on it to be thinner in practice. That's a direct response to the original comment, providing a case where the comment is true. So you don't have a case and you protect your phone quite well. That is a pure anecdote. Just because you want it to be an anecdotal strawman doesn't mean it is one.
- swebs 13y ago
  The screen of pretty much all smartphones/tables nowadays are made of tempered aluminosilicate glass. One of the properties of tempered glass is that it can withstand great impact on the front, but can shatter if dropped on the side. If you look closely at those Youtube videos, they will all probably be hitting the glass dead center. If you want to see a smartphone shatter, look for a video where the brunt of the impact is focused on one edge of the glass. Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NyrN0kR7VjM#t=110 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Nyr...
- enneff 13y ago
  You said that people often comment on how your phone is too thick, and then take the case off their phone to compare the size. The story characterizes the owners of those phones as imbeciles. This is the strawman anecdote I was referring to. You also say that iPhones need cases, which is not true.
  - freehunter 13y ago
    The person I responded to said iPhones need cases. I was just agreeing with him. And the story I told is called "storytelling". It's a way to emphasize a point that's entertaining to read. Point 1: people use cases on their iPhone. Point 2: the Lumia is thinner than an iPhone with an average case. Point 3: The iPhone is thinner without a case. There's your facts, without entertaining storytelling.
MAGZine 13y ago
I think you just strawmanned his argument...
hubtree 13y ago
same here
72deluxe 13y ago
If only my Motorola Atrix was so strong.... sob weep The glass was in a thousand pieces after hitting tarmac.

Nice anecdotal strawman, so here's my contrary experience: I have owned iphones and android devices and never encased them nor broken them.

by enneff 13y ago

Nice anecdotal strawman, so here's my contrary experience: I have owned iphones and android devices and never encased them nor broken them.

freehunter 13y ago

Anecdotal strawman? It's hardly anecdotal to say that the Lumia, being made of solid polycarbonate plastic, can withstand impacts more than an iPhone made of glass and rigid metal. There are multiple YouTube tests that show how much force a Lumia 920 can withstand without breaking. Your example is an anecdote, since there are many forms of proof that the iPhone is quite fragile as well as, for example, the Nexus 4. (anecdote: I shattered my Nexus 4 dropping it from a window sill onto carpet) Likewise, how is it a strawman? The original comment was that the person doesn't care about thinner because it becomes thicker when you put a case on it. A phone that doesn't need a case need only be thinner than a comparable phone with a case on it to be thinner in practice. That's a direct response to the original comment, providing a case where the comment is true. So you don't have a case and you protect your phone quite well. That is a pure anecdote. Just because you want it to be an anecdotal strawman doesn't mean it is one.

swebs 13y ago
The screen of pretty much all smartphones/tables nowadays are made of tempered aluminosilicate glass. One of the properties of tempered glass is that it can withstand great impact on the front, but can shatter if dropped on the side. If you look closely at those Youtube videos, they will all probably be hitting the glass dead center. If you want to see a smartphone shatter, look for a video where the brunt of the impact is focused on one edge of the glass. Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NyrN0kR7VjM#t=110 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Nyr...
enneff 13y ago
You said that people often comment on how your phone is too thick, and then take the case off their phone to compare the size. The story characterizes the owners of those phones as imbeciles. This is the strawman anecdote I was referring to. You also say that iPhones need cases, which is not true.
- freehunter 13y ago
  The person I responded to said iPhones need cases. I was just agreeing with him. And the story I told is called "storytelling". It's a way to emphasize a point that's entertaining to read. Point 1: people use cases on their iPhone. Point 2: the Lumia is thinner than an iPhone with an average case. Point 3: The iPhone is thinner without a case. There's your facts, without entertaining storytelling.

MAGZine 13y ago

I think you just strawmanned his argument...

hubtree 13y ago

same here

72deluxe 13y ago

If only my Motorola Atrix was so strong.... sob weep The glass was in a thousand pieces after hitting tarmac.