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Apple is all about that planned obsolescence, right!

by arrrg 13y ago

anologwintermut 13y ago
That argument usually applied to iOS an their practices about non easily user repairable hardware.
- arrrg 13y ago
  I’ve heard it made plenty times in reference to OS X (also iOS where they are really pushing the boundaries of the hardware to bring it to old devices). Every time a new version comes out, actually.
- stcredzero 13y ago
  > That argument usually applied to iOS... That's been the traditional criticism against Apple and Mac seemingly forever. (User of Apples since Apple II+ and original Macintosh.)
- ctdonath 13y ago
  Planned obsolescence has been Apple's standard operating procedure since the beginning.
  - Bud 13y ago
    Whatever. Is that why I've used my desktop Macs for an average of about 8 years before replacing them, and same with the laptops, at which time, I sold them, still working, to others?
    - enneff 13y ago
      Indeed. What about the Apple II/e and original Macintoshes remaining useful for a decade after their release?
lukifer 13y ago
It can still be planned obsolescence even if the plan is a good one. ;) Apple has always attempted to strike a balance between longevity and progress, especially on Macs (5-7 year lifespan, usually). iOS is faster-moving, and gets the shaft more often (2-3 years, sometimes less). The latter will hopefully get better as the mobile hardware catches up to desktops; most of the forced upgrades have been due to low RAM or other hardware deficiencies.
brymaster 13y ago
Since you're being credulous, I'll bite: Just because it's "free" and you can update systems that are on Snow Leopard, doesn't mean it'll update all systems on Snow Leopard. For those paying attention, Apple killed off quite a bit of hardware with 10.8. Those certainly aren't upgradable to Mavericks.
- arrrg 13y ago
  To call that planned obsolescence is completely ridiculous.
  - brymaster 13y ago
    It's not. All hardware has a planned lifecycle and it's just up to them to draw the line in the sand. They'll also do it through software updates by making less features available on the older model in order to compel you to upgrade to the newer. "AirPlay Mirroring" only available in Sandy Bridge or greater because of the usage of Intel QuickSync is an example of that. For any cocoa/obj-c dev that's dealt with constant deprecated API's on Mac, they know exactly what I'm talking about.
    - cdcarter 13y ago
      > They'll also do it through software updates by making less features available on the older model in order to compel you to upgrade to the newer. "AirPlay Mirroring" only available in Sandy Bridge or greatest because of the usage of Intel QuickSync is an example of that. By your own admission that's not "in order to compel you to upgrade to the newer." That's because the newer hardware is required to make it work satisfactorily.
      - brymaster 13y ago
        No, because third party alternatives like AirParrot or Beamer work just as well and without the hardware restriction.
        13y ago
badman_ting 13y ago
Also, their OS upgrades are more expensive than everyone else's because their customers are idiot sheep easily fooled by flashy marketing. That's why this is so expensive.

Apple is all about that planned obsolescence, right!

by arrrg 13y ago

Apple is all about that planned obsolescence, right!

anologwintermut 13y ago

That argument usually applied to iOS an their practices about non easily user repairable hardware.

arrrg 13y ago
I’ve heard it made plenty times in reference to OS X (also iOS where they are really pushing the boundaries of the hardware to bring it to old devices). Every time a new version comes out, actually.
stcredzero 13y ago
> That argument usually applied to iOS... That's been the traditional criticism against Apple and Mac seemingly forever. (User of Apples since Apple II+ and original Macintosh.)
ctdonath 13y ago
Planned obsolescence has been Apple's standard operating procedure since the beginning.
- Bud 13y ago
  Whatever. Is that why I've used my desktop Macs for an average of about 8 years before replacing them, and same with the laptops, at which time, I sold them, still working, to others?
  - enneff 13y ago
    Indeed. What about the Apple II/e and original Macintoshes remaining useful for a decade after their release?

lukifer 13y ago

It can still be planned obsolescence even if the plan is a good one. ;) Apple has always attempted to strike a balance between longevity and progress, especially on Macs (5-7 year lifespan, usually). iOS is faster-moving, and gets the shaft more often (2-3 years, sometimes less). The latter will hopefully get better as the mobile hardware catches up to desktops; most of the forced upgrades have been due to low RAM or other hardware deficiencies.

brymaster 13y ago

Since you're being credulous, I'll bite: Just because it's "free" and you can update systems that are on Snow Leopard, doesn't mean it'll update all systems on Snow Leopard. For those paying attention, Apple killed off quite a bit of hardware with 10.8. Those certainly aren't upgradable to Mavericks.

arrrg 13y ago
To call that planned obsolescence is completely ridiculous.
- brymaster 13y ago
  It's not. All hardware has a planned lifecycle and it's just up to them to draw the line in the sand. They'll also do it through software updates by making less features available on the older model in order to compel you to upgrade to the newer. "AirPlay Mirroring" only available in Sandy Bridge or greater because of the usage of Intel QuickSync is an example of that. For any cocoa/obj-c dev that's dealt with constant deprecated API's on Mac, they know exactly what I'm talking about.
  - cdcarter 13y ago
    > They'll also do it through software updates by making less features available on the older model in order to compel you to upgrade to the newer. "AirPlay Mirroring" only available in Sandy Bridge or greatest because of the usage of Intel QuickSync is an example of that. By your own admission that's not "in order to compel you to upgrade to the newer." That's because the newer hardware is required to make it work satisfactorily.
    - brymaster 13y ago
      No, because third party alternatives like AirParrot or Beamer work just as well and without the hardware restriction.
      - 13y ago

badman_ting 13y ago

Also, their OS upgrades are more expensive than everyone else's because their customers are idiot sheep easily fooled by flashy marketing. That's why this is so expensive.