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Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream
- coolnow 13y agoSorry if this is always brought up (i haven't seen an Apple stream since the iPhone 4 event), but we /still/ need Quicktime to stream this? What the hell?
- ScottWhigham 13y agoWhen I view the page in FF24, it says "Live Streaming video requires Safari 4 or later on OS X v10.6 or later; Safari on iOS 4.2 or later." I'm just as surprised that it "requires Safari" which is just ... silly.
- iMark 13y agoThe iPod didn't take off until the release of the Windows version. I wonder if that lesson has been lost.
- mikeash 13y agoI don't know that this lesson applies now. Apple occupied a tiny niche at the time the iPod gained Windows compatibility. Now there are the better part of a billion Apple devices out in the world that can view this stream.
- vvhn 13y agoIt's a live stream of a marketing event of a company. In an ideal world, no one besides die hard apple fans should be interested in watching it live as it happens. I don't remember the iPod with Windows video event being streamed live as well but yet, as you say, it was a success. The video is almost always immediately available for everyone after the event. What does anyone gain by watching (or providing) what is widely speculated to be an announcement of a new iteration of an existing product live ?
- danpalmer 13y agoI've just spent this morning setting up an Apple HTTP Live Stream to other platforms with a flash player. It's not too difficult to do, so I assume the reason for not doing it is Apple's unwillingness to use 3rd party technology. In their defence, the technology is open, and the only reason Mozilla/Google etc aren't implementing support for HLS is that they are betting on their own technology instead of using HLS, which is currently far ahead.
- SEMW 13y ago> In their defence, the technology is open, and the only reason Mozilla/Google etc aren't implementing support for HLS... Android, for one example, does support http live streaming (since Honeycomb). Try it: Apple's own demonstration sample HLS stream[1] plays fine on Android. (I think VLC does too now, etc.) Of course, Android users are still blocked from this event, the page won't show you the stream unless it detects you're using an Apple product, even if you could play it fine. This was a deliberate restriction by Apple, not a technical limitation. [1] http://devimages.apple.com/iphone/samples/bipbop/gear1/prog_index.m3u8 http://devimages.apple.com/iphone/samples/bipbop/gear1/prog_...
- ynniv 13y agoGoogle wants their own protocol to succeed, Mozilla wants a different video codec to succeed[1], Microsoft probably wants to own both. It's very easy to cache HLS, which makes distributing high definition to a large number of people much cheaper. Is Apple supposed to spend more money on lower quality steaming just because their competitors don't want to play nicely? VLC is capable of playing HLS if you can get it the correct URL. Some other browsers can play it, but the web has an unfortunately long history of browser detection. [1 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577084 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577084]
- arrrg 13y agoI don’t think this is about wanting protocols to succeed, or at least not primarily. Every iOS or OS X device Apple sells (so pretty much any of their products) can play this. No need to install anything. Why should Apple do any special extra work to make it work elsewhere without a bit of hassle? Also, it’s just a fucking PR event. Why do people want to watch it? That’s just weird.
- msujaws 13y agoNo, Mozilla is working on implementing Media Source Extensions API [1] which is the same as Google Chrome and Chromebooks [2]. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778617 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778617 [2] http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/15/netflix-html5-chromebooks/ http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/15/netflix-html5-chromebooks/
- pornel 13y agoI presume they're using their HTTP Live Streaming (hack with chunked video for variable framerate). It's supported by VLC and a few other players, but not natively in browsers yet.
- danpalmer 13y agoIt's supported natively by Safari, Mac OS and iOS. And it's not a hack, it's a specified protocol that a few media companies seem to be taking up now.
- 6ren 13y agohttp://www.ustream.tv/ltktv http://www.ustream.tv/ltktv
- Achshar 13y agoThat's live coverage, not the event itself. Last time I saw one of these they were shambling trying to get video from people's iphones inside the hall and a couple of their guys got caught and were asked to leave.
- 6ren 13y agoNope, this time they're streaming the actual event (Apple's providing it, they can just re-stream). But they do editorialize on top (and cough and sniffle)... fortunately, only occasionally.
- jreed91 13y agoExcited for the new mini. Also over or under $5000 for mac pro?
- fusiongyro 13y agoI'll gamble. $3250 for the base model.
- ScottWhigham 13y agoDefinitely under here - I'll go $3750!
- xutopia 13y agoI'll venture 3299$ for the base Mac Pro.
- jakobe 13y ago$2999
- pa5tabear 13y ago$2899, check it
- fusiongyro 13y agoClose!
- Achshar 13y agoOk so it's that time of the year again. I am on windows and have chrome, firefox, ie 11, VLC, flash. Is there any way for me to watch this stream? Heck will this work even if I get quicktime? Edit: * So they updated the page to say it will work for quicktime if you are on windows. * But I am on win 8 and they use js to hide that part. So for now I am assuming it's because quicktime on it's download page only says it is supported upto win 7. So they must be hiding it for people with windows 8. * I am downloading quicktime anyways and if regular install doesn't work then compatibility mode will almost certainly work for people with windows 8. * Apart from that you might also need to spoof your UA to safari's. They only allow safari to load the stream. And safari is officially discontinued for windows. WTF apple. And even then it's not guaranteed to work. Edit 2: They seem to be showing a html5 video element for a spoofed chrome on windows with quicktime disabled. So maybe they decided to give up after all.
- M4v3R 13y agoApple uses HTTP Live Streaming protocol. VLC should be able to play it just fine. You will probably need a custom URL to feed VLC though. I'll paste the URL here once it's available. EDIT: Quick bash script for extracting VLC-playable URLs (when they're available): curl `curl http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2013/ | grep "p.events-delivery.apple.com" | sed 's/\<script.*src="\(.*\)".*/\1/' | sed 's/".*//g'` | sed -e 's/[ \t]//' UPDATE: Here are the links: /snowLeopardurl/ = http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdvaeodhbqedvojhbadsfv/refs/13ohbdvohbqsdvojhbdfv09_sl_vod_ref.mov http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdv... /non-snowLeopard url/ = http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdvaeodhbqedvojhbadsfv/refs/13ohbdvohbqsdvojhbdfv09_hd_vod_ref.mov http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdv... /Windowsurl/ = http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdvaeodhbqedvojhbadsfv/refs/13ohbdvohbqsdvojhbdfv09_hd_vod_ref.mov http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdv... /iphoneurl / = http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdvaeodhbqedvojhbadsfv/refs/13ohbdvohbqsdvojhbdfv09_iphone_vod_ref.mov http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdv... /ipadurl/ = http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdvaeodhbqedvojhbadsfv/refs/13ohbdvohbqsdvojhbdfv09_ipad_vod_ref.mov http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdv... /voip/ = http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdvaeodhbqedvojhbadsfv/refs/13ohbdvohbqsdvojhbdfv09_audio_vod_ref.mov http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1309ouhbqdv...
- daurnimator 13y agoAnyone have a link to the stream itself? As a linux user, I get an empty div and told that Quicktime comes with OSX.
- seunosewa 13y agoHas the event started yet? The live stream doesn't seem to be working on the Apple device that I'm using.
- timmins 13y ago10 AM Pacific, 12 PM Central
- davidcollantes 13y ago13 hours, Eastern.
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- nextstep 13y agoStart time: 07:00 — Honolulu, Hawaii 10:00 — San Francisco, California 13:00 — New York, New York 14:00 — São Paulo, Brazil 18:00 — London, England 19:00 — Rome, Italy 20:00 — Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 21:00 — Moscow, Russia 22:30 — New Delhi, India 01:00 — Shanghai, China (October 23) 02:00 — Tokyo, Japan (October 23) 03:00 — Sydney, Australia (October 23)
- etimesg 13y ago15:00 São Paulo (Summer Time). Here's an updated TZ list http://everytimezone.com/#2013-10-22,300,6bj http://everytimezone.com/#2013-10-22,300,6bj
- radicalbyte 13y agoToday is the first time in months that I've searched for an international timetracker. Was really impressed with this: http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/est-to-cet-converter http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/est-to-cet-converter Finally, a website with a very clear visualization of various timezones. Then you post evertimezone.com, which does a very similar thing, but with battery-friendly css :)
- llimllib 13y agoI'm a big fan of http://time.is http://time.is. You can go to http://time.is/compare http://time.is/compare to generate a similar comparison, or just add the times you want to know to the front page.
- etimesg 13y agoWhat I like about everytimezone is that a single access provides all information I need, no interaction required. As for the design, I appreciate the work of Amy Hoy. She also did a great job with their time tracking app: letsfreckle.com
- VeejayRampay 13y agoThat's why Apple is succeeding. People are moaning about how they cannot view the live stream of an Apple event on their Windows/Linux platform, like we're landing on the moon or something. Amazing.
- Achshar 13y agoI would be equally excited for google IO or microsoft build. this is not unique with apple at least for me.
- easytiger 13y agoYea it's a great idea to exclude most of the world from your marketing.
- panacea 13y agoI think your sarcasm just fell into a chasm. It may not be by design, but the effect is the same...
- miahi 13y agoI don't own any Apple device and I don't plan to buy any, but I'm still interested to know what they plan.
- pingec 13y agoSo... is the stream live yet? Can we get an URL?
- sgentle 13y agoHands down there is nothing more exciting about this OS X update than being able to use multiple monitors again. They can keep their fancy power management and their new apps, because nothing will compare to that feeling when I boot into my shiny new surf-speckled desktop, fullscreen a video on my second monitor, and my main screen isn't covered in useless grey cloth. For the first time in I don't know how many years, I won't have to repress the urge to knock my monitor off my desk and install Ubuntu. I will just gaze at the waves off Half Moon Bay, a satisfied smile on my lips, and feel nothing but pure calm.
- nathas 13y ago...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?
- depr 13y agoOnly fullscreen applications.
- achompas 13y agoThe specific problem arises when you full-screen an app in 10.7 and 10.8. Your second monitor won't provide useable space--it'll just have the stupid dark linen texture.
- sverrejoh 13y agoOS X Mavericks will have a feature I always wanted in Linux: Independent spaces for each monitor! In Gnome (at least when I left it, but I don't think it has changed) and previously in OS X, switching to a new virtual space will update both monitors. With this update you choose virtual space independently for each monitor, and let one stay at — say — the logs window, while you change the space on the other monitor.
- tvon 13y agoI don't remember the specific setup (or what it's called), but you can have that in Linux. The problem is that then you can't drag windows from one monitor to the other, though that may also be something that can be configured. Because of that I never liked independent desktops in Linux, but I like how they implemented it in Mavericks.
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- zhufenggood 13y agoleak retina macbook 15 configuration： ME293：CPU2.0/8G/256G SSD/Iris Pro Graphics ──replace mbp none retina ME294：CPU2.3/16G/512G SSD/750M 2G ME8*4 2.6/16G/1TB SSD/ 750M 2G I guess :-)
- wavesum 13y agoTim's voice shakes a lot. I wonder what makes him so nervous.
- lukifer 13y agoYeah, what could possibly be nerve-wracking about public speaking to hundreds of thousands of people, where a single mis-step can be remembered and mocked until the end of his days?
- eliot_sykes 13y agoAlthough its not everyone's cup of tea, you can watch the event with TWiT commentary: http://live.twit.tv/ http://live.twit.tv/
- tehwebguy 13y agoFederighi just announced Mavericks is free
- Gurrewe 13y agoWindows 8.1 is also free, so no real surprise here. Anyway, good work Apple!
- EdwardMSmith 13y ago(honest question) - Is windows 8.1 free if I have a (full, standalone) copy of XP or Vista, or only if I own Windows 8? Mavericks appears to be free for people with Snow Leopard (at least, that's what I read).
- lukifer 13y ago8.1 is a smaller update than Mavericks, which is itself a smaller update than Win8 or Win7 (in terms of release schedule and scope, not judging quality or quantity of engineering). Apples and oranges, so to speak.
- saturdaysaint 13y agoUnless you're interested in Metro (nobody), is there anything remotely interesting about 8.1? Mavericks has some impressive battery and performance improvements that anyone will be able to use. I'd be mad if I had to pay for 8.1. I would've happily paid for Mavericks.
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- geuis 13y agoIs this working for anyone? Can't watch it in Chrome, and on Safari I'm prompted to install Quicktime. I'm on a Mac. On the Quicktime download page it just warns that I already have QT installed. Very confusing.
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- kumarm 13y agoWorks only on Safari. Hello we are apple, welcome to 1998.
- bsimpson 13y agoApple keynotes, like Apple itself, get more insufferable over time. The only thing more tiring than hearing Steve Jobs describe every single thing they release as "magical" or "revolutionary" is hearing Phil Schiller blather on about hardware specs. Isn't Apple supposed to be the company that abstracts away hardware features to instead describe their products in terms of real-life benefits? I remember a time when I truly looked forward to watching these keynotes and being inspired about the future. Now, though, every one feels like incremental changes wrapped in hyperbole. Instead of thinking "hey, that's actually pretty cool," I come away thinking "STOP SAYING EVERY DAMN THING YOU TOUCH IS 'MAGICAL' - GET OVER YOURSELVES AND LET ME DECIDE IF I'M AMAZED!"