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"There are 9 bank holidays a year You offer 20 vacation days a year (we do, and you should, too) They take an average of 8.5 sick days a year (it happens)" Tho

"There are 9 bank holidays a year You offer 20 vacation days a year (we do, and you should, too) They take an average of 8.5 sick days a year (it happens)" Those numbers are incredibly overly ambitious. Very few non-governmental jobs have all 9 bank holidays off. Not many Americans have 20 days of vacation. Just because "you do" does not make it the norm. Many companies nowadays have PTO, which mean sick days simply come out of your vacation day allocation.

Silhouette 13y ago
I think it should be noted that all of those things are very US-centric, and workers in the US generally get a very bad deal compared to almost any other first world country. For example, for a full-time employee in Europe, dropping below those levels wouldn't just be unambitious, it would probably be illegal. In many European countries, the counts for both bank holidays and vacation days are usually somewhat higher. Also, if you're sick then for many salaried positions you would still get paid as normal, though would you probably have to get an official statement from your doctor for anything non-trivial and different rules might apply if you needed to take long-term sick leave. A typical reckoning in Europe is that there are 365 days in the year, but only a little over 200 working days. Put another way, the fully loaded cost of a "full-time" employee here is probably 150-200% of their salary, and a significant chunk of the overhead is paying them for Monday-Friday days when they won't actually be at work for one reason or another.
CWIZO 13y ago
Wow. As an European I just can't wrap my head around this. I'm currently working in London, and our firm has a policy that for up to 7 days of sick leave you don't even need to prove that you were sick, anything over that you need a letter from your GP. America, fuck yeah? ps: he didn't say it is the norm, he said it's a good idea to do it.

Silhouette 13y ago

I think it should be noted that all of those things are very US-centric, and workers in the US generally get a very bad deal compared to almost any other first world country. For example, for a full-time employee in Europe, dropping below those levels wouldn't just be unambitious, it would probably be illegal. In many European countries, the counts for both bank holidays and vacation days are usually somewhat higher. Also, if you're sick then for many salaried positions you would still get paid as normal, though would you probably have to get an official statement from your doctor for anything non-trivial and different rules might apply if you needed to take long-term sick leave. A typical reckoning in Europe is that there are 365 days in the year, but only a little over 200 working days. Put another way, the fully loaded cost of a "full-time" employee here is probably 150-200% of their salary, and a significant chunk of the overhead is paying them for Monday-Friday days when they won't actually be at work for one reason or another.

CWIZO 13y ago

Wow. As an European I just can't wrap my head around this. I'm currently working in London, and our firm has a policy that for up to 7 days of sick leave you don't even need to prove that you were sick, anything over that you need a letter from your GP. America, fuck yeah? ps: he didn't say it is the norm, he said it's a good idea to do it.