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This would probably be a good thing. Right now the internet is way too US driven and focused. A more balanced, global distribution of talent would be far more b

by SeanDav 13y ago

This would probably be a good thing. Right now the internet is way too US driven and focused. A more balanced, global distribution of talent would be far more beneficial.

Udo 13y ago
At first glance it may seem that way, but I don't see how the privacy and human rights situation is all that different in, say, Europe and it's generally worse in places like India or China. Whenever I see European startup communities at work, they're really at their best when they're emulating US startup culture. Removing US influence may lead to an even more stagnant ecosystem in the long run.
chmars 13y ago
I agree. And it might ease some of the pricing issue too. There are many plans for cloud services outside the US but there's usually a lack of know-how and competitive functionality/pricing. A current example: Clio, a cloud provider for lawyers, recently started to offer a server location in Ireland in order to comply with European privacy laws [1]. The price, however, is about 60% higher than in the US … Price comparison: US = 49 USD/month = about 36 EUR [2] EU = 49 GBP/month = about 58 EUR [3] [1] = http://www.goclio.com/blog/2013/10/clio-online-practice-management-platform-launches-in-europe/ http://www.goclio.com/blog/2013/10/clio-online-practice-mana... [2] = http://www.goclio.com/signup/ http://www.goclio.com/signup/ [3] = http://www.goclio.co.uk/signup/ http://www.goclio.co.uk/signup/
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  The cost issue is probably because they're using Linode instead of AWS.
  - chmars 13y ago
    What could be the reason for using Linode instead of AWS's European data center?
    - toomuchtodo 13y ago
      Just personal preference I'm guessing. They probably went live US side with Linode, and their DevOps is probably already built around Linode's API/environment, so it was easier to just spin up new gear in Linode EU vs AWS EU.

by SeanDav 13y ago

This would probably be a good thing. Right now the internet is way too US driven and focused. A more balanced, global distribution of talent would be far more beneficial.

Udo 13y ago

At first glance it may seem that way, but I don't see how the privacy and human rights situation is all that different in, say, Europe and it's generally worse in places like India or China. Whenever I see European startup communities at work, they're really at their best when they're emulating US startup culture. Removing US influence may lead to an even more stagnant ecosystem in the long run.

chmars 13y ago

I agree. And it might ease some of the pricing issue too. There are many plans for cloud services outside the US but there's usually a lack of know-how and competitive functionality/pricing. A current example: Clio, a cloud provider for lawyers, recently started to offer a server location in Ireland in order to comply with European privacy laws [1]. The price, however, is about 60% higher than in the US … Price comparison: US = 49 USD/month = about 36 EUR [2] EU = 49 GBP/month = about 58 EUR [3] [1] = http://www.goclio.com/blog/2013/10/clio-online-practice-management-platform-launches-in-europe/ http://www.goclio.com/blog/2013/10/clio-online-practice-mana... [2] = http://www.goclio.com/signup/ http://www.goclio.com/signup/ [3] = http://www.goclio.co.uk/signup/ http://www.goclio.co.uk/signup/

toomuchtodo 13y ago
The cost issue is probably because they're using Linode instead of AWS.
- chmars 13y ago
  What could be the reason for using Linode instead of AWS's European data center?
  - toomuchtodo 13y ago
    Just personal preference I'm guessing. They probably went live US side with Linode, and their DevOps is probably already built around Linode's API/environment, so it was easier to just spin up new gear in Linode EU vs AWS EU.