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What the SEO? – The shady world of small business SEO

72 points by dangoldin 13y ago

dragonbonheur 13y ago
A DCMA Takedown notice is the best legal way to take down the website. If you want to get shady too you could also use tactics like using automated black hat tools and generate lots of suspicious (to google)backlinks pointing to www.bestnewjerseyartsschool.com Far from helping them, it will tell google that they aren't worth ranking that high. Of course, it's a last resort. Copying content and duplicating it all over the web is a form of SEO attack. Now you just have to fight back. Of course, it would still be worth it to get your own content rewritten at least once before you hit them back. I know people won't agree with this radical solution but for those black hat guys the web is a war zone. Good luck.
- dangoldin 13y ago
  Thanks. I'm helping my mom file it. Turns out that they actually filed a DMCA request against my mom's site for the photos she took. That's some chutzpah.
  - 300bps 13y ago
    Do you have a copy of the DMCA request from chillingeffects.org? I think pretty much every DMCA request that Google receives has a copy sent there for public view. It should at least have their name or company name though they may have faked it.
  - walshemj 13y ago
    I thought there where penalties for malicious use of the DMCA
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  - thekevan 13y ago
    "If you want to get shady too you could also use tactics like using automated black hat tools and generate lots of suspicious (to google)backlinks pointing to www.bestnewjerseyartsschool.com Far from helping them, it will tell google that they aren't worth ranking that high." I'd do some research before embarking on this. Remember, they copied your mom's website, they have duplicate content. I wouldn't be surprised if Google's crawler already knows that. So if you make their site look shady, your mom's site may be hurt in SEO rankings for being guilty by association. Ironic, I know. Again, I am not sure if this could be the case, but you may want to get an expert's opinion.
    - dragonbonheur 13y ago
      That is precisely why I wrote it would be worthwhile to have existing content rewritten before striking back. Just in case.
  - a5seo 13y ago
    Filing a false DMCA takedown opens the filer up to civil damages (assuming you want to pursue them). It's a shame there's no criminal penalty. http://www.aaronkellylaw.com/internet-law/consequences-of-filing-a-false-dmca-takedown-request/ http://www.aaronkellylaw.com/internet-law/consequences-of-fi...
  - dangoldin 13y ago
    I'm actually confirming it was a DMCA request. I might have jumped to that conclusion and it may have been something else just trying to extort money from her. I'll update once I find out.
    - dangoldin 13y ago
      So I was wrong when I said it was a DMCA request. It was actually Getty images telling her she was using an image without licensing it. When she asked which image they sent her a link to the rip-off site since they assumed it's her. Now she just needs to tell them it's not her site and she'd be glad to have them issue a DMCA request.
- a5seo 13y ago
  If Google doesn't remove the site from the SERPs, you can also serve the spammer's hosting company/ISP with a DMCA, then they'll be forced to take the site offline.
- spokenn 13y ago
  Yeah but they'll just neg-seo you back, better. Your domain will then be trashed.
- chmars 13y ago
  A DCMA takedown notice might work, however, in my experience, a successful notice has often the result that the website in question is moved to another jurisdiction. Good luck with sending a DMCA takedown notice to a site hosted on a server in Bulgaria by a hosting company in Panama and a domain registrar in Thailand. .com are in theory under American jurisdiction but domain registrars cannot be made responsible for content under 'their' domain names …
triplesec 13y ago
take your link to the fake site down from your page here! You're just upranking them and giving them potential traffic by giving them in-links.
- dangoldin 13y ago
  Yea - I have the rel="nofollow". Do you know if that's enough? Obviously I don't want to give them any extra juice.
  - 300bps 13y ago
    You're probably OK but I wouldn't link them at all. Anyone who pretends to know the secret sauce of Google or any other search engine is either lying or is a high-level engineer working specifically on search at said search engine.
    - triplesec 13y ago
      just what he said. Most blogs on controversies deliberately don't link to the bad guys' site (you can always google them, right?) just so as not to give them traffic or any likely benefit.
      - dangoldin 13y ago
        I removed the links but kept the text. I want to make it easy for people to compare the two without actually giving them the benefit. Surprisingly difficult.
  - moultano 13y ago
    That's enough.
birken 13y ago
Are you actually losing any queries to this site or seeing a drop in your traffic? Google is very smart, they probably know your site is more trustworthy and had the content first. If the person is hosting a bunch of similarly crappy pages on the same IP and/or the same host, Google knows about it. Any suitably popular site is going to have all sorts of people ripping off your content. Google knows this, and work very hard to deal with it. I just searched for a bunch of things related to your site and the legitimate pages appears to be winning them all, and I don't even see the bad page showing up in the top 10. If the site is sapping traffic, file a DCMA against their hosting provider (though there are some shady web-hosts who won't do anything about it). Obviously if they are filing a DCMA request against you, defend yourself. But just because somebody is ripping off your content doesn't necessarily mean you need to do anything.
- fchollet 13y ago
  If Google could detect this behavior, wouldn't they kick the culprit out of AdSense?
  - walshemj 13y ago
    Not always - they let doddgy "helper" sites that charge a fee for things available for free from government sites e.g. passport applications back in after they added some minor tiny text to their site. http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/apr/15/passport-application-online-service-taken-ride http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/apr/15/passport-applic...
    - walshemj 13y ago
      I see the google fanbois are out in force
  - birken 13y ago
    Being able to be part of Adsense and ranking for search terms are completely different things. And even if everything were integrated, the bar for kicking somebody out of Adsense would be much higher than demoting somebody in the rankings. Kicking people out of Adsense also is much more permanent, because Google has all of the person's information so they can easily block future attempts to signup if they kick you out. The #1 thing Google is concerned about for search is webspam. The #1 thing they are concerned with for Adsense is click fraud. So in this situation, we probably have a) a site which gets little traffic because google search has detected it is webspam and b) a site which makes little money because it gets little traffic, and c) doesn't engage in click fraud. Therefore, it still is a member of Adsense, but gets no search traffic in google search.
coin 13y ago
-1 for being mobile hostile by disabling pinchzoom. What value could there possibly be in disabling pinchzoom?
- dangoldin 13y ago
  Hmm. That was not the intent. Let me take a look and see if I can fix the css. Thanks for letting me know.
memracom 13y ago
Help your Mom refresh her site content completely. Rewrite everything and reorganize it in a fresh new way. Make sure that you include some duplicate links for the same pages and do proper canonicalization to indicate to Google which is the authoritative link. https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/139066?hl=en https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/139066?hl=en In the process of rewriting, change some of the key URLs, i.e. some of the pages that link to a lot of other pages on your site, and submit those changes to Google for recrawling http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/submit-urls-to-google-with-fetch-as.html http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/submit-... This will help defeat a copycat who has munged up their timestamps because Google will now believe that your mom's site is the original. Don't rewrite too much, i.e. no need to change every word, but just try to improve every page, make it a bit clearer, restructure the content to put the most important info first using journalistic pyramid style writing. Change some of the wording in headings and titles. Never make a change just for change's sake, but always make changes when they improve the content, and help the target audience for that page. You could even test a few pages on actual target audience members and ask them if they think the rewrite is better and clearer. Once you go through all of this, keep up the resubmissions to Google when key pages change, for instance the site map, index pages, portal pages, and so on. They will no doubt copy your site again, but it will do them no good. P.S. if you want to try an underhanded attack on the people doing this, don't go to a blackhat link spam site. Instead contact the site owners of all the real sites, and offer to help them for free, in making their site copy-proof. If you find anyone who actually paid money, urge them to report the fraud to police. Keep hunting for the people behind this, and when you find them, send a copy of all the official fraud complaints from all over the country to their local police department. That way you keep the moral high ground.
Matsta 13y ago
Ok, this guy is using a couple of methods off BlackHatWorld (Probably the biggest SEO forum around if you haven't heard of it) So essentially this guy is building this site, ranking it in Google using the churn 'n Burn method, then once its ranking well he'll contact local business saying he can link to them in return for a fee. Even though the domain is 6 months old, if you look at ahrefs this guy has 33k backlinks to the homepage. Google had a major SEO update on October 4th which essentially fucked up their algorithm more than it already was. This churn 'n burn method means that you spam out a zillion backlinks and you will rank really well until the next Google update comes along (which is around 3-4 months) You could do this in the previous Google update (Penguin 2.1) and I thought Google would fix this but they just made it easier. This is a good example of the method: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/576969-payday-loans-matt-cutts.html http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/5769... (This was the one of the guys that essentially figured out this method from what I can tell) So with this new Google update, they are getting rid of some of the spammy sites, but more spam sites just taken their places in the rankings. Now they are focusing on the amount of content on your site rather than the backlinks. So now 10 year old sites with hundreds of legitimate, high authority backlinks are getting outranked but spammy sites with 14 backlinks and 300 gibberish articles. I've also been reading that with local Google searches, you get results from completely different countries. For example, people in the UK were reporting that they were getting results from sites in Russia, Argentina and New Zealand instead of UK results. I don't think this happens as much in America from what I know. So I'm guessing Google is eventually going to iron out these problems, but it's a battleground at the moment. If you do get outranked by this guy, make a video with your keywords in the title, same with a Facebook and LinkedIn page and then buy a bunch of backlinks off Fiverr. They should outrank pretty much any other website in a matter of days.
- alexweber 13y ago
  Great post. I'm going to take this opportunity to suggest people check out Duck Duck Go. That is all.
  - yen223 13y ago
    What does Duck Duck Go do to mitigate this sort of SEO attacks?
Matt_Cutts 13y ago
Hey Dan, it's annoying when a someone scrapes your website, and it's even more annoying that this site tried to claim your Mom's images with Getty. But as far as I can tell, the site that you mentioned isn't having any success at all. For all the work that this spammer put into copying your Mom's site, it doesn't look like they're getting even a single digit number of visitors from Google. So they may be annoying, but their attempts at spamming didn't do them any good at all. Feel free to do a DMCA request, but I'm already passing this to my team as a spam report and we'll dig into it. I don't know how Getty deals with scrapers though, so you'll need to look into that on your side. I made a video with advice about dealing with scraping a few years ago that might be useful for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CosWAVLCZg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CosWAVLCZg
- grecy 13y ago
  Hey Matt, Can you pass along the scrapers details to the Adsense team too... I would think that account should be shutdown.
- dangoldin 13y ago
  Matt, Thanks for the response - I guess my mom's site is good enough to ward off a cheap attack. Thanks for passing this on to the team - that host has a ton more sites similar to my mom's so anything that can be done to help the original owners would be awesome. It sucks worse for people who aren't familiar with the web and just have to deal with the consequences of someone else's actions. Anything Google can do to help is appreciated and I suspect this problem will only get more difficult. I'll past that video on to my mom as well. Thanks again.
  - Matt_Cutts 13y ago
    No worries at all. It was a pretty big network of spam domains, even though each individual domain wasn't really having any impact.
- gwu78 13y ago
  "... it doesn't look like they're getting even a single digit number of visitors from Google." So? What if that is not the goal? Is it possible that some users might not type their searches in a Google-sponsored search bar or a Google-controlled browser's "omni" bar? Is it possible that some websites might get traffic from their domain names alone, because these names are descriptive? No search engine needed: Type your search into the address bar and add .com. I believe this is called "direct navigation". Presumably, these sites generate small scale (but targeted) traffic on a site by site basis that might only be significant when aggregated across many sites. Contrast this with the immense traffic received by a search engine acting as a portal to the rest of the web, for which each site must compete... by purchasing ads or placement or "SEO" services. Interestingly, there is no AdSense on the imposter site mentioned in the article. The only outbound links is a search form pointing to https://www.google.com https://www.google.com. Thus this imposter site is not a landing page for Do Re Mi but for Google.
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AznHisoka 13y ago
Not trying to be snarky, but what happened to "Don't write for search engines, just worry about the human visitor". Sure Google might get confused but I doubt your regular visitors will confuse that spam site with yours..
- dangoldin 13y ago
  Well if people are searching for piano lessons and end up on that site instead of my mom's they might just give up rather than try to find the real site since they most likely will assume that's the site itself. Google's responsible for helping the human visitors get to where they need to go.
ivanbrussik 13y ago
the title tag of this is misleading - this is some sort of scammer, not a "small business SEO company."
ahhelp 13y ago
What if for whatever reason your website goes down for a bit.... you go on holiday not realizing because everyone needs a holiday for a couple weeks.. come back oh no.. will the scrapers now take your place as the originals? That is the question.

72 points by dangoldin 13y ago

A DCMA Takedown notice is the best legal way to take down the website. If you want to get shady too you could also use tactics like using automated black hat tools and generate lots of suspicious (to google)backlinks pointing to www.bestnewjerseyartsschool.com Far from helping them, it will tell google that they aren't worth ranking that high. Of course, it's a last resort. Copying content and duplicating it all over the web is a form of SEO attack. Now you just have to fight back. Of course, it would still be worth it to get your own content rewritten at least once before you hit them back. I know people won't agree with this radical solution but for those black hat guys the web is a war zone. Good luck.

dangoldin 13y ago
Thanks. I'm helping my mom file it. Turns out that they actually filed a DMCA request against my mom's site for the photos she took. That's some chutzpah.
- 300bps 13y ago
  Do you have a copy of the DMCA request from chillingeffects.org? I think pretty much every DMCA request that Google receives has a copy sent there for public view. It should at least have their name or company name though they may have faked it.
- walshemj 13y ago
  I thought there where penalties for malicious use of the DMCA
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- thekevan 13y ago
  "If you want to get shady too you could also use tactics like using automated black hat tools and generate lots of suspicious (to google)backlinks pointing to www.bestnewjerseyartsschool.com Far from helping them, it will tell google that they aren't worth ranking that high." I'd do some research before embarking on this. Remember, they copied your mom's website, they have duplicate content. I wouldn't be surprised if Google's crawler already knows that. So if you make their site look shady, your mom's site may be hurt in SEO rankings for being guilty by association. Ironic, I know. Again, I am not sure if this could be the case, but you may want to get an expert's opinion.
  - dragonbonheur 13y ago
    That is precisely why I wrote it would be worthwhile to have existing content rewritten before striking back. Just in case.
- a5seo 13y ago
  Filing a false DMCA takedown opens the filer up to civil damages (assuming you want to pursue them). It's a shame there's no criminal penalty. http://www.aaronkellylaw.com/internet-law/consequences-of-filing-a-false-dmca-takedown-request/ http://www.aaronkellylaw.com/internet-law/consequences-of-fi...
- dangoldin 13y ago
  I'm actually confirming it was a DMCA request. I might have jumped to that conclusion and it may have been something else just trying to extort money from her. I'll update once I find out.
  - dangoldin 13y ago
    So I was wrong when I said it was a DMCA request. It was actually Getty images telling her she was using an image without licensing it. When she asked which image they sent her a link to the rip-off site since they assumed it's her. Now she just needs to tell them it's not her site and she'd be glad to have them issue a DMCA request.
a5seo 13y ago
If Google doesn't remove the site from the SERPs, you can also serve the spammer's hosting company/ISP with a DMCA, then they'll be forced to take the site offline.
spokenn 13y ago
Yeah but they'll just neg-seo you back, better. Your domain will then be trashed.
chmars 13y ago
A DCMA takedown notice might work, however, in my experience, a successful notice has often the result that the website in question is moved to another jurisdiction. Good luck with sending a DMCA takedown notice to a site hosted on a server in Bulgaria by a hosting company in Panama and a domain registrar in Thailand. .com are in theory under American jurisdiction but domain registrars cannot be made responsible for content under 'their' domain names …

triplesec 13y ago

take your link to the fake site down from your page here! You're just upranking them and giving them potential traffic by giving them in-links.

dangoldin 13y ago
Yea - I have the rel="nofollow". Do you know if that's enough? Obviously I don't want to give them any extra juice.
- 300bps 13y ago
  You're probably OK but I wouldn't link them at all. Anyone who pretends to know the secret sauce of Google or any other search engine is either lying or is a high-level engineer working specifically on search at said search engine.
  - triplesec 13y ago
    just what he said. Most blogs on controversies deliberately don't link to the bad guys' site (you can always google them, right?) just so as not to give them traffic or any likely benefit.
    - dangoldin 13y ago
      I removed the links but kept the text. I want to make it easy for people to compare the two without actually giving them the benefit. Surprisingly difficult.
- moultano 13y ago
  That's enough.

birken 13y ago

Are you actually losing any queries to this site or seeing a drop in your traffic? Google is very smart, they probably know your site is more trustworthy and had the content first. If the person is hosting a bunch of similarly crappy pages on the same IP and/or the same host, Google knows about it. Any suitably popular site is going to have all sorts of people ripping off your content. Google knows this, and work very hard to deal with it. I just searched for a bunch of things related to your site and the legitimate pages appears to be winning them all, and I don't even see the bad page showing up in the top 10. If the site is sapping traffic, file a DCMA against their hosting provider (though there are some shady web-hosts who won't do anything about it). Obviously if they are filing a DCMA request against you, defend yourself. But just because somebody is ripping off your content doesn't necessarily mean you need to do anything.

fchollet 13y ago
If Google could detect this behavior, wouldn't they kick the culprit out of AdSense?
- walshemj 13y ago
  Not always - they let doddgy "helper" sites that charge a fee for things available for free from government sites e.g. passport applications back in after they added some minor tiny text to their site. http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/apr/15/passport-application-online-service-taken-ride http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/apr/15/passport-applic...
  - walshemj 13y ago
    I see the google fanbois are out in force
- birken 13y ago
  Being able to be part of Adsense and ranking for search terms are completely different things. And even if everything were integrated, the bar for kicking somebody out of Adsense would be much higher than demoting somebody in the rankings. Kicking people out of Adsense also is much more permanent, because Google has all of the person's information so they can easily block future attempts to signup if they kick you out. The #1 thing Google is concerned about for search is webspam. The #1 thing they are concerned with for Adsense is click fraud. So in this situation, we probably have a) a site which gets little traffic because google search has detected it is webspam and b) a site which makes little money because it gets little traffic, and c) doesn't engage in click fraud. Therefore, it still is a member of Adsense, but gets no search traffic in google search.

coin 13y ago

-1 for being mobile hostile by disabling pinchzoom. What value could there possibly be in disabling pinchzoom?

dangoldin 13y ago
Hmm. That was not the intent. Let me take a look and see if I can fix the css. Thanks for letting me know.

memracom 13y ago

Help your Mom refresh her site content completely. Rewrite everything and reorganize it in a fresh new way. Make sure that you include some duplicate links for the same pages and do proper canonicalization to indicate to Google which is the authoritative link. https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/139066?hl=en https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/139066?hl=en In the process of rewriting, change some of the key URLs, i.e. some of the pages that link to a lot of other pages on your site, and submit those changes to Google for recrawling http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/submit-urls-to-google-with-fetch-as.html http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/submit-... This will help defeat a copycat who has munged up their timestamps because Google will now believe that your mom's site is the original. Don't rewrite too much, i.e. no need to change every word, but just try to improve every page, make it a bit clearer, restructure the content to put the most important info first using journalistic pyramid style writing. Change some of the wording in headings and titles. Never make a change just for change's sake, but always make changes when they improve the content, and help the target audience for that page. You could even test a few pages on actual target audience members and ask them if they think the rewrite is better and clearer. Once you go through all of this, keep up the resubmissions to Google when key pages change, for instance the site map, index pages, portal pages, and so on. They will no doubt copy your site again, but it will do them no good. P.S. if you want to try an underhanded attack on the people doing this, don't go to a blackhat link spam site. Instead contact the site owners of all the real sites, and offer to help them for free, in making their site copy-proof. If you find anyone who actually paid money, urge them to report the fraud to police. Keep hunting for the people behind this, and when you find them, send a copy of all the official fraud complaints from all over the country to their local police department. That way you keep the moral high ground.

Matsta 13y ago

Ok, this guy is using a couple of methods off BlackHatWorld (Probably the biggest SEO forum around if you haven't heard of it) So essentially this guy is building this site, ranking it in Google using the churn 'n Burn method, then once its ranking well he'll contact local business saying he can link to them in return for a fee. Even though the domain is 6 months old, if you look at ahrefs this guy has 33k backlinks to the homepage. Google had a major SEO update on October 4th which essentially fucked up their algorithm more than it already was. This churn 'n burn method means that you spam out a zillion backlinks and you will rank really well until the next Google update comes along (which is around 3-4 months) You could do this in the previous Google update (Penguin 2.1) and I thought Google would fix this but they just made it easier. This is a good example of the method: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/576969-payday-loans-matt-cutts.html http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/5769... (This was the one of the guys that essentially figured out this method from what I can tell) So with this new Google update, they are getting rid of some of the spammy sites, but more spam sites just taken their places in the rankings. Now they are focusing on the amount of content on your site rather than the backlinks. So now 10 year old sites with hundreds of legitimate, high authority backlinks are getting outranked but spammy sites with 14 backlinks and 300 gibberish articles. I've also been reading that with local Google searches, you get results from completely different countries. For example, people in the UK were reporting that they were getting results from sites in Russia, Argentina and New Zealand instead of UK results. I don't think this happens as much in America from what I know. So I'm guessing Google is eventually going to iron out these problems, but it's a battleground at the moment. If you do get outranked by this guy, make a video with your keywords in the title, same with a Facebook and LinkedIn page and then buy a bunch of backlinks off Fiverr. They should outrank pretty much any other website in a matter of days.

alexweber 13y ago
Great post. I'm going to take this opportunity to suggest people check out Duck Duck Go. That is all.
- yen223 13y ago
  What does Duck Duck Go do to mitigate this sort of SEO attacks?

Matt_Cutts 13y ago

Hey Dan, it's annoying when a someone scrapes your website, and it's even more annoying that this site tried to claim your Mom's images with Getty. But as far as I can tell, the site that you mentioned isn't having any success at all. For all the work that this spammer put into copying your Mom's site, it doesn't look like they're getting even a single digit number of visitors from Google. So they may be annoying, but their attempts at spamming didn't do them any good at all. Feel free to do a DMCA request, but I'm already passing this to my team as a spam report and we'll dig into it. I don't know how Getty deals with scrapers though, so you'll need to look into that on your side. I made a video with advice about dealing with scraping a few years ago that might be useful for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CosWAVLCZg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CosWAVLCZg

grecy 13y ago
Hey Matt, Can you pass along the scrapers details to the Adsense team too... I would think that account should be shutdown.
dangoldin 13y ago
Matt, Thanks for the response - I guess my mom's site is good enough to ward off a cheap attack. Thanks for passing this on to the team - that host has a ton more sites similar to my mom's so anything that can be done to help the original owners would be awesome. It sucks worse for people who aren't familiar with the web and just have to deal with the consequences of someone else's actions. Anything Google can do to help is appreciated and I suspect this problem will only get more difficult. I'll past that video on to my mom as well. Thanks again.
- Matt_Cutts 13y ago
  No worries at all. It was a pretty big network of spam domains, even though each individual domain wasn't really having any impact.
gwu78 13y ago
"... it doesn't look like they're getting even a single digit number of visitors from Google." So? What if that is not the goal? Is it possible that some users might not type their searches in a Google-sponsored search bar or a Google-controlled browser's "omni" bar? Is it possible that some websites might get traffic from their domain names alone, because these names are descriptive? No search engine needed: Type your search into the address bar and add .com. I believe this is called "direct navigation". Presumably, these sites generate small scale (but targeted) traffic on a site by site basis that might only be significant when aggregated across many sites. Contrast this with the immense traffic received by a search engine acting as a portal to the rest of the web, for which each site must compete... by purchasing ads or placement or "SEO" services. Interestingly, there is no AdSense on the imposter site mentioned in the article. The only outbound links is a search form pointing to https://www.google.com https://www.google.com. Thus this imposter site is not a landing page for Do Re Mi but for Google.

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AznHisoka 13y ago

Not trying to be snarky, but what happened to "Don't write for search engines, just worry about the human visitor". Sure Google might get confused but I doubt your regular visitors will confuse that spam site with yours..

dangoldin 13y ago
Well if people are searching for piano lessons and end up on that site instead of my mom's they might just give up rather than try to find the real site since they most likely will assume that's the site itself. Google's responsible for helping the human visitors get to where they need to go.

ivanbrussik 13y ago

the title tag of this is misleading - this is some sort of scammer, not a "small business SEO company."

ahhelp 13y ago

What if for whatever reason your website goes down for a bit.... you go on holiday not realizing because everyone needs a holiday for a couple weeks.. come back oh no.. will the scrapers now take your place as the originals? That is the question.