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>It's stupid because they have multiplied a couple anecdotes, conflated decreased reproductive output and formalized relationships with a decrease in actual sex
by scythe 13y ago
>It's stupid because they have multiplied a couple anecdotes, conflated decreased reproductive output and formalized relationships with a decrease in actual sex, and gotten all breathless and hyperbolic about it.
This doesn't fit the article:
> A survey earlier this year by the Japan Family Planning Association (JFPA) found that 45% of women aged 16-24 "were not interested in or despised sexual contact". More than a quarter of men felt the same way.
So A: the person asking the questions isn't a reporter, B: they aren't British, and C: they have every reason to figure out a way to get people to answer the questions honestly, i.e., not "cultural misunderstanding" where someone at a party lies about how much sex they have.
What your argument really boils down to is: "no measurement, real or otherwise, could ever possibly indicate that Japanese people are having less sex": i.e. your post is unfalsifiable, and your claim thusly ludicrous.
>There may well be ongoing generational changes to reproductive and marriage/relationship behavior in Japan [...] but this article doesn't go there.
Did you read it?
>Japan's Institute of Population and Social Security reports an astonishing 90% of young women believe that staying single is "preferable to what they imagine marriage to be like".
So we can correctly interpret your post: what precisely is "going there", if not this?
The article is also based on the opinions of two people who have been claiming to study Japanese sexual behavior: the therapist Ai Aoyama and the sociologist Nicholas Eberstadt. Certainly the opinion of two "experts" is not a conclusive analysis of a situation, but this is a pretty ordinary way of sourcing information for a news article. It isn't particularly "stupid" for this. Which is why statements like this:
>There's no evidence of any trend that young people in Japan have stopped having sex.
make you look dishonest in light of this:
http://www.ipss.go.jp/site-ad/index_english/nfs14/Nfs14_Singles_Eng.pdf http://www.ipss.go.jp/site-ad/index_english/nfs14/Nfs14_Sing...
http://www.durex.com/en-jp/sexualwellbeingsurvey/documents/gss2005result.pdf http://www.durex.com/en-jp/sexualwellbeingsurvey/documents/g...
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fl20110906ad.html http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fl20110906ad.html
You can dispute the strength of the evidence, but it isn't "no evidence".