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Most people agree that mass murder of Iraqis was bad at the time, just 10 years ago - it didn't prevent it from happening. The US drone program is still routine
by sparkie 13y ago
Most people agree that mass murder of Iraqis was bad at the time, just 10 years ago - it didn't prevent it from happening. The US drone program is still routinely murdering many, even though most people consider it bad.
I'm pretty sure most people would've considered the mass murder of Americans bad at the time too, since Christianity was prevalent, and we know what it says about murder. There's obviously a difference from now, in that people were more xenophobic at the time, but there are still similarities to the current day.
It seems that while most of us are civil individually, as a collective, the civility is lost, and what is manifested is the barbaric elements among us.
The framework for what people consider to be good/bad is flawed and contradictory, because while most of us agree that murder is bad, we routinely pay a hit man to conduct it. Very few people consider that's what's happening when they pay tax, but it doesn't make it any less true. Some people recognize the fact and pay tax out of fear of what the hit man may do to them if they don't pay, and many others will suffer cognitive dissonance in which they convince themselves that it's necessary for "the greater good", and downplay the mass murder and torture.
Rather than being content with what we have being better than what we had, we should consider the ways in which we haven't changed from the past and do something about them. One thing that hasn't changed is that we're still paying the hit man. Will the hit man ever stop killing people when we continue paying it? Perhaps we should be thinking how to create a different framework in which there is no hit man. Perhaps then we may be called 'civil'.
- riffraff 13y ago> I'm pretty sure most people would've considered the mass murder of Americans bad at the time too, since Christianity was prevalent, and we know what it says about murder. No, the problem being that non-europeans were considered less than humans even by prominent theologists. "We are all equals" is a terribly recent idea. In the same way, cat burning was considered good family fun until the 19th century, we have only started to extend basic rights to non-human sentient beings. > Perhaps then we may be called 'civil'. And again, you have reduced the issue to being civil yes/no. We shouldn't be content with the way we are, but that doesn't mean we haven't improved.