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Is there a reason why a simple visual editor such as notepad++ cannot be used via the terminal (e.g., for Linux administration)? I'm trying to do some LAMP rela

Is there a reason why a simple visual editor such as notepad++ cannot be used via the terminal (e.g., for Linux administration)? I'm trying to do some LAMP related server administration using vi and I cannot believe how many weird commands one has to learn to do simple text editor functions. It's also probably a hugely intimidating factor that prevents more newbies from moving to Linux.

bcrescimanno 13y ago
To do absolutely basic text editing, you really don't need to learn much at all: i - enter insert mode. ESC - leave insert mode. ZZ - save and quit :q! - quit without saving. Since, in insert mode, vim basically behaves like a simple notepad, that's really all you need. FYI, if you want a "simple," notepad like editor for console on linux, check out nano. http://www.nano-editor.org http://www.nano-editor.org
- lowboy 13y ago
  I think most people would consider copy/paste and undo/redo to be included in "basic" text editing.
  - hackaflocka 13y ago
    If the Linux community wants to attract more newbies, they need to come up with an easily "grokked" text editor.
    - jlgreco 13y ago
      There are plenty... nano/pico/joe if you want to work in the terminal (though who is trying to woo newbies with terminal based text editors?), and gedit/kate/kwrite in the GUI department. The idea that Linux is somehow floundering because only Vi and Emacs exist and those are difficult is absurd. Perhaps the real question is do we want to attract more newbies? Why do we want to attract newbies? If more non-technical users are the solution to our problems, then why is Android (with their legions of newbies) such an absolute shitfest compared to traditional Linux distros?
qnr 13y ago
Have you tried nano?
mtdewcmu 13y ago
Notepad++ isn't a terminal program. There are other terminal-based editors on Linux besides vim and emacs that have easier learning curves like pico and joe.
qqqw 13y ago
You can use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSHFS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSHFS KDE used to have some built in remote editing stuff in Konqueror, I don't know if it's still there or got moved into Dolphin, or removed.
psutor 13y ago
Linux sysadmin here - although I use vi for almost everything on the terminal, I still consider Notepad++ a "killer app" for Windows. It perplexes me that in all this time I have not been able to find anything comparable for Linux. Games and Notepad++ are the only real reasons I have had for using Windows on my desktop instead of Linux.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  The last time I used either (5 or 6 years ago), Kate seemed perfectly comparable to Notepad++. http://kate-editor.org/about-kate/ http://kate-editor.org/about-kate/ It's "vi imitation" mode is shit though.

bcrescimanno 13y ago

To do absolutely basic text editing, you really don't need to learn much at all: i - enter insert mode. ESC - leave insert mode. ZZ - save and quit :q! - quit without saving. Since, in insert mode, vim basically behaves like a simple notepad, that's really all you need. FYI, if you want a "simple," notepad like editor for console on linux, check out nano. http://www.nano-editor.org http://www.nano-editor.org

lowboy 13y ago
I think most people would consider copy/paste and undo/redo to be included in "basic" text editing.
- hackaflocka 13y ago
  If the Linux community wants to attract more newbies, they need to come up with an easily "grokked" text editor.
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    There are plenty... nano/pico/joe if you want to work in the terminal (though who is trying to woo newbies with terminal based text editors?), and gedit/kate/kwrite in the GUI department. The idea that Linux is somehow floundering because only Vi and Emacs exist and those are difficult is absurd. Perhaps the real question is do we want to attract more newbies? Why do we want to attract newbies? If more non-technical users are the solution to our problems, then why is Android (with their legions of newbies) such an absolute shitfest compared to traditional Linux distros?

qnr 13y ago

Have you tried nano?

mtdewcmu 13y ago

Notepad++ isn't a terminal program. There are other terminal-based editors on Linux besides vim and emacs that have easier learning curves like pico and joe.

qqqw 13y ago

You can use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSHFS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSHFS KDE used to have some built in remote editing stuff in Konqueror, I don't know if it's still there or got moved into Dolphin, or removed.

psutor 13y ago

Linux sysadmin here - although I use vi for almost everything on the terminal, I still consider Notepad++ a "killer app" for Windows. It perplexes me that in all this time I have not been able to find anything comparable for Linux. Games and Notepad++ are the only real reasons I have had for using Windows on my desktop instead of Linux.

jlgreco 13y ago
The last time I used either (5 or 6 years ago), Kate seemed perfectly comparable to Notepad++. http://kate-editor.org/about-kate/ http://kate-editor.org/about-kate/ It's "vi imitation" mode is shit though.