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Too funny -- I diagnosed this to L3 on my home net this morning and I found myself saying "I wonder if anyone else has this issue?". When it comes to the backbo

Too funny -- I diagnosed this to L3 on my home net this morning and I found myself saying "I wonder if anyone else has this issue?". When it comes to the backbone providers there is no Twitter account or status.level3.net or status.theinternet. Hard to do when everything is decentralized. I usually go hit NANOG when stuff like this happens but you're not guaranteed to find something real time there.

pearkes 13y ago
Yea, same here. I took this traceroute (mtr): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/v5k29jnfkhz0ggu/2013-10-19%20at%203.04%20PM.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/v5k29jnfkhz0ggu/2013-10-... Not sure what was going on there, I wish I did, but seems to be related? Edit: that was going to an nyc digital ocean VPS
aroch 13y ago
Well, there is lg.level3.net but it's down too!
busterarm 13y ago
http://www.internetpulse.com/ http://www.internetpulse.com/
chimeracoder 13y ago
> Hard to do when everything is decentralized. It's funny, because when you think about it, the Internet is remarkably centralized despite its potential to be almost completely decentralized. A coworker of mine was telling me just this week that the building we work in, in New York City, is one of two single points of failure for the Northeast (and both points of failure are in New York). This is an incredibly chilling thought when you consider just how little control humans still have over natural disasters (we saw this firsthand last year in NYC). By "single point of failure" I don't mean that every single person would be unable to access every single website, but that large chunks of the Internet (particularly anything coming from Europe) would be unavailable for most of those users.
- mrgriscom 13y ago
  wouldn't that traffic eventually get routed via asia?
  - medecau 13y ago
    Or Florida.
- apaprocki 13y ago
  Well, you either work in 60 Hudson, or ... :)
  - chimeracoder 13y ago
    The one that doesn't have 80,000 gallons of fuel and 2000 gallons of diesel fuel stored in the building. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111_Eighth_Avenue http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111_Eighth_Avenue
    - fatjokes 13y ago
      Hi Googler!
malandrew 13y ago
Out of curiosity, what do you do to diagnose something like this? What tools and commands?
- bcl 13y ago
  http://www.internetpulse.net/ http://www.internetpulse.net/ and http://traceroute.org/ http://traceroute.org/ are two sites I used in addition to the usual unix tools like traceroute.
- baldfat 13y ago
  trace route is nice BUT mtr is better. Mtr does averages on latency at every node and any lost packets.
- throwaway2048 13y ago
  many providers also host "Looking glasess". Its a server hanging off their core network that allows you to run pings and traceroutes http://lookingglass.level3.net/ http://lookingglass.level3.net/ (seems to be down currently) a nice big list of looking glasses http://www.lookinglass.org/ http://www.lookinglass.org/
kissrdotco 13y ago
Apparently it's under construction: http://status.theinternet.net/ http://status.theinternet.net/

pearkes 13y ago

Yea, same here. I took this traceroute (mtr): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/v5k29jnfkhz0ggu/2013-10-19%20at%203.04%20PM.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/v5k29jnfkhz0ggu/2013-10-... Not sure what was going on there, I wish I did, but seems to be related? Edit: that was going to an nyc digital ocean VPS

aroch 13y ago

Well, there is lg.level3.net but it's down too!

busterarm 13y ago

http://www.internetpulse.com/ http://www.internetpulse.com/

chimeracoder 13y ago

> Hard to do when everything is decentralized. It's funny, because when you think about it, the Internet is remarkably centralized despite its potential to be almost completely decentralized. A coworker of mine was telling me just this week that the building we work in, in New York City, is one of two single points of failure for the Northeast (and both points of failure are in New York). This is an incredibly chilling thought when you consider just how little control humans still have over natural disasters (we saw this firsthand last year in NYC). By "single point of failure" I don't mean that every single person would be unable to access every single website, but that large chunks of the Internet (particularly anything coming from Europe) would be unavailable for most of those users.

mrgriscom 13y ago
wouldn't that traffic eventually get routed via asia?
- medecau 13y ago
  Or Florida.
apaprocki 13y ago
Well, you either work in 60 Hudson, or ... :)
- chimeracoder 13y ago
  The one that doesn't have 80,000 gallons of fuel and 2000 gallons of diesel fuel stored in the building. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111_Eighth_Avenue http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111_Eighth_Avenue
  - fatjokes 13y ago
    Hi Googler!

malandrew 13y ago

Out of curiosity, what do you do to diagnose something like this? What tools and commands?

bcl 13y ago
http://www.internetpulse.net/ http://www.internetpulse.net/ and http://traceroute.org/ http://traceroute.org/ are two sites I used in addition to the usual unix tools like traceroute.
baldfat 13y ago
trace route is nice BUT mtr is better. Mtr does averages on latency at every node and any lost packets.
throwaway2048 13y ago
many providers also host "Looking glasess". Its a server hanging off their core network that allows you to run pings and traceroutes http://lookingglass.level3.net/ http://lookingglass.level3.net/ (seems to be down currently) a nice big list of looking glasses http://www.lookinglass.org/ http://www.lookinglass.org/

kissrdotco 13y ago

Apparently it's under construction: http://status.theinternet.net/ http://status.theinternet.net/