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How did "we" come to this? You're asking the largest military wielder and prison population and the only nation to have used nuclear weapons on real people, peo
by aric 13y ago
How did "we" come to this? You're asking the largest military wielder and prison population and the only nation to have used nuclear weapons on real people, people going about their contained lives wanting to wake up to see another day, how "we" came to this.
- Hiroshima
- Nagasaki
- Vietnam
- Constant US policy to support genocidal dictators around the world who mass slaughter "their" people, so long as US corporate interests gain over sovereign interests.
Millions of killings later directly and indirectly from US hands, entire lands and societies literally poisoned into waste at US policy over the past 70 years, and one asks how invading Iraq (and Afghanistan) on imaginary and unjustified pretexts was possible. The answers are shocking and simple.
There are a couple classic "American ways" in spirit. The first has some idealistic value (e.g. individual freedom, can-do attitude). Then the second is one that silences all else: hear no evil, see no evil, support our troops (i.e. in reality, support the political monsters who use them). The simplest answers to your question are related to deeply rooted combinations of nationalism, racism, pride, intolerance, regional proximity to other nations, and systems of governance that are both insufficiently compartmentalized and that run on forced funding (taxation). Guaranteed funding, especially with only the masking of "democracy," was a fast path for a super power that thinks itself a "super hero" in the world's eye -- and largely was seen as such to those who didn't face the brunt of its violence -- to guarantee its continued exploits and an accelerating industry of war. Elections put little if any checks/balances upon a congressional network of plunderers who mostly serve the same corporate and violent interests, policies, and strategists, but through lightly varying vocabulary come election. Paranoia that the US could reasonably claim in that last 'new century' and into this one is dismissed by policies that become brutal and offensive.
1. Google the American timelines and legacy of its direct and proxy imperialism: https://www.google.com/search?q=us+imperialism https://www.google.com/search?q=us+imperialism
2. Oliver Stone's Showtime series, "Untold History of the United States," is quite worth watching in full. Sure, we can all find faults with it. It's not intended to give a "balanced" account. Rather, it's a crash course in provoking thought about the seldom discussed or even known aspects of US policy compared to the general public and its vapid historical accounting of its negative actions. It's 10 episodes. http://www.sho.com/sho/oliver-stones-untold-history-of-the-united-states/home http://www.sho.com/sho/oliver-stones-untold-history-of-the-u...
- briandear 13y ago"Largest prison population" sorry but China wis that award.
- trobertson 13y agoCertifiably false. USA imprisons ~6x more of its citizens than China does [1], as a matter of percentage. Considering that the USA has ~1/4 the population of China [2], we can determine that the USA has more people in prisons than China, by a factor of roughly 1.5 USA prisoners per 1 Chinese prisoner. --- [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_ra... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_populatio...
- aric 13y agoEven if it were true that China cages more people relatively, that would be a laughably low standard to flaunt.
- briandear 13y agoI'm curious why you leave Pol Pot, Rwanda, the Soviet Union out of your statement. The US doesn't have a monopoly on killing people or supporting bad actors. I also see no criticism of the EU that has supported their share of dictators. The anti-American tripe that constantly gets brought up by people that have actually never lived under true oppression is just silly without applying context. You mention Hiroshima -- what about the Nanjing Massacre? You mentioned Vietnam.. The reeducation camps run by the Communists were pretty brutal. Know anything about the Cultural Revolution in China? What about human experimentation conducted by Germans and Japanese? What about 1989 in China? How about the Turks and Greeks? Chechnya? Serbia? Kosovo? Your one-sided rant reads like a freshman regurgitation of a Robert Jensen lecture. You can't blame America for everything, despite your desire to do just that.
- aric 13y agoI'm curious why you think acknowledging the US's ills is equivalent to overlooking the countless ills of many other extremely violent nations and despots. The difference between us, perhaps, is that I care about and acknowledge all aspects of global atrocities.