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This is the most soul-crushing category of bug, the kind which keeps me up all night, drinking. Build a skyscraper, and lock the keys inside for the ribbon cut

This is the most soul-crushing category of bug, the kind which keeps me up all night, drinking. Build a skyscraper, and lock the keys inside for the ribbon cutting. Sorry pal you lost your funding Land on Mars, see an alien, but your camera is out of batteries and everybody back on Earth thinks you're a quack. Successfully perform open-heart surgery on a desert island, but muck up the stitches and cause a scar. Your patient will hold it against you the rest of his life (which you saved).

to3m 13y ago
The soul-crushing bugs are the ones where you run a program, and nothing actually goes actively wrong, but the program overall just doesn't behave quite like it does on the real hardware. Simple defects where a key is being ignored on certain systems are usually quite easy to fix ;)
- j1vms 13y ago
  Whoosh
  - to3m 13y ago
    Would you like me to explain my response more clearly? :)
shurcooL 13y ago
Luckily, he was able to come up with a workaround. Here's a soul-crushing situation that doesn't have a workaround, as far as I can tell. You can play the original Deus Ex on OnLive. By default, it sets the fov to a very low number. It's only possible to change it in the console (there is no UI for it). But the console is disabled. However, you can get around that by pressing T, which creates a mini console with "say " prepoulated. Press delete to erase say, and type "fov 90". So close... But they disabled the Enter key from working. So you can get full access to the console, type the command that would fix the FOV, but you're unable to execute it because Enter key does not get sent to the game. You're completely helpless.
- a1369209993 13y ago
  OnLive runs on OSX. gdb (i think) also runs on OSX. It should be possible to isolate the callback used to handle keyboard input and call it with c=10. This would take anywhere from hours to weeks of debugging though.
  - shurcooL 13y ago
    No, that won't work. Nothing you do client-side will help. OnLive Client <-all input is transmitted-> OnLive Servers <-filter out Enter-> Deus Ex instance in a VM. The enter key is filtered out on their servers. Unless you hack into their servers and change that, there is nothing you can do on the client-side. That's what makes you completely helpless.
    - a1369209993 13y ago
      Ah, my apologies, I thought the game was running locally. (This sort of assholeness on the part of servers is basically why 'cloud computing' is such a bad idea.)
      - shurcooL 13y ago
        I disagree that cloud computing is a bad idea because of this. It has advantages and disadvantages. Not being able to hack around to make changes you wish is a disadvantage, but having access to something you would not have otherwise is a much bigger advantage.

to3m 13y ago

The soul-crushing bugs are the ones where you run a program, and nothing actually goes actively wrong, but the program overall just doesn't behave quite like it does on the real hardware. Simple defects where a key is being ignored on certain systems are usually quite easy to fix ;)

j1vms 13y ago
Whoosh
- to3m 13y ago
  Would you like me to explain my response more clearly? :)

shurcooL 13y ago

Luckily, he was able to come up with a workaround. Here's a soul-crushing situation that doesn't have a workaround, as far as I can tell. You can play the original Deus Ex on OnLive. By default, it sets the fov to a very low number. It's only possible to change it in the console (there is no UI for it). But the console is disabled. However, you can get around that by pressing T, which creates a mini console with "say " prepoulated. Press delete to erase say, and type "fov 90". So close... But they disabled the Enter key from working. So you can get full access to the console, type the command that would fix the FOV, but you're unable to execute it because Enter key does not get sent to the game. You're completely helpless.

a1369209993 13y ago
OnLive runs on OSX. gdb (i think) also runs on OSX. It should be possible to isolate the callback used to handle keyboard input and call it with c=10. This would take anywhere from hours to weeks of debugging though.
- shurcooL 13y ago
  No, that won't work. Nothing you do client-side will help. OnLive Client <-all input is transmitted-> OnLive Servers <-filter out Enter-> Deus Ex instance in a VM. The enter key is filtered out on their servers. Unless you hack into their servers and change that, there is nothing you can do on the client-side. That's what makes you completely helpless.
  - a1369209993 13y ago
    Ah, my apologies, I thought the game was running locally. (This sort of assholeness on the part of servers is basically why 'cloud computing' is such a bad idea.)
    - shurcooL 13y ago
      I disagree that cloud computing is a bad idea because of this. It has advantages and disadvantages. Not being able to hack around to make changes you wish is a disadvantage, but having access to something you would not have otherwise is a much bigger advantage.