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Given the recent tendency for similarly potent drugs like the DOx class of psychedelic amphetamines to be falsely sold as LSD, I'm highly skeptical of an experi

by dsrguru 13y ago

Given the recent tendency for similarly potent drugs like the DOx class of psychedelic amphetamines to be falsely sold as LSD, I'm highly skeptical of an experiment whose supply comes from a random dealer online and doesn't seem to have been tested for identity or purity.

cnp 13y ago
I think an important piece of information that is missing from the experiment is the name of the vendor who he purchased the tabs from. For those with an interest in high-quality LSD, Silk Road was the place to go, and certain vendors were repeatedly tested, both laboratory-wise as well as via trip-tests. (Let me take a moment and say RIP to SR; legitimate, multilayered good-faith efforts at harm-reduction were just dramatically reduced.) But continuing, knowing the vendor, as well as his overall reputation, would add credence to the 100ug assumption.
- gwern 13y ago
  > I think an important piece of information that is missing from the experiment is the name of the vendor who he purchased the tabs from. VitaCat. For all the details you could want, see http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road#lsd-case-study http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road#lsd-case-study
  - cnp 13y ago
    Thank you.
  - dsrguru 13y ago
    Thanks for responding. I'm no longer skeptical!
    - gwern 13y ago
      I didn't include it in the original writeup because I thought 'well, it's not like SR sellers are household names and anyone would go "oh! VitaCat! I know that dude, he's good stuff"'. Guess I was wrong... /edits writeup to be more explicit about the LSD source.
      - dsrguru 13y ago
        It's not that I know of the specific seller. I have never consumed LSD. I have never been on the SR and now obviously never will. However, you included so many details to demonstrate the rigor of your process, yet you didn't explain how you knew you were even using LSD, which seems to be far and away the single most important detail of the experiment. Now you have!

by dsrguru 13y ago

cnp 13y ago

I think an important piece of information that is missing from the experiment is the name of the vendor who he purchased the tabs from. For those with an interest in high-quality LSD, Silk Road was the place to go, and certain vendors were repeatedly tested, both laboratory-wise as well as via trip-tests. (Let me take a moment and say RIP to SR; legitimate, multilayered good-faith efforts at harm-reduction were just dramatically reduced.) But continuing, knowing the vendor, as well as his overall reputation, would add credence to the 100ug assumption.

gwern 13y ago
> I think an important piece of information that is missing from the experiment is the name of the vendor who he purchased the tabs from. VitaCat. For all the details you could want, see http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road#lsd-case-study http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road#lsd-case-study
- cnp 13y ago
  Thank you.
- dsrguru 13y ago
  Thanks for responding. I'm no longer skeptical!
  - gwern 13y ago
    I didn't include it in the original writeup because I thought 'well, it's not like SR sellers are household names and anyone would go "oh! VitaCat! I know that dude, he's good stuff"'. Guess I was wrong... /edits writeup to be more explicit about the LSD source.
    - dsrguru 13y ago
      It's not that I know of the specific seller. I have never consumed LSD. I have never been on the SR and now obviously never will. However, you included so many details to demonstrate the rigor of your process, yet you didn't explain how you knew you were even using LSD, which seems to be far and away the single most important detail of the experiment. Now you have!