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So has gwern done a psychedelic dose of LSD? > Everything I’ve heard or read is consistent with what such experiences seem to be: the brain in a very unusual s

So has gwern done a psychedelic dose of LSD? > Everything I’ve heard or read is consistent with what such experiences seem to be: the brain in a very unusual state, malfunctioning in many respects and perhaps functioning better in a few other respects. I simply cannot take that seriously from someone who has not had a proper psychedelic trip from LSD. "You have no idea" would be a massive understatement. Take 250ug then try and write an article about it.

nilved 13y ago
Why not? Isn't that what it is?
- dreamdu5t 13y ago
  No. 10ug of LSD does nothing, it has no psychedelic aspect to it at all. You need 100ug+ to have a decent trip, and 200ug+ to have the kind of trip that people become religious about. An analogy would be saying that taking a sip of a glass of beer had some sort of effect. It's like if someone said they'd never had a drink in their life but are going to see if they can reproduce some positive effects of being drunk by taking a sip of beer once a day.
  - tedks 13y ago
    This is about microdosing, not tripping. There are some claims (one recently on reddit/r/nootropics) that taking very low doses of LSD will have various positive cognitive effects. Gwern here attempts to test these claims. If people said that taking a sip of beer had positive effects, I'd expect Gwern to test that as well.
gwern 13y ago
> I simply cannot take that seriously from someone who has not had a proper psychedelic trip from LSD. "You have no idea" would be a massive understatement. I thought my trip was pretty proper, and I did not see any reason afterwards to modify what I wrote in advance. I realize VitaCat's tab, while advertised as 250μg, may really have been more like 150μg, but I wouldn't call that not a 'proper psychedelic trip', and I think I do at least have some idea.

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So has gwern done a psychedelic dose of LSD? > Everything I’ve heard or read is consistent with what such experiences seem to be: the brain in a very unusual s

by dreamdu5t 13y ago

nilved 13y ago
Why not? Isn't that what it is?
- dreamdu5t 13y ago
  No. 10ug of LSD does nothing, it has no psychedelic aspect to it at all. You need 100ug+ to have a decent trip, and 200ug+ to have the kind of trip that people become religious about. An analogy would be saying that taking a sip of a glass of beer had some sort of effect. It's like if someone said they'd never had a drink in their life but are going to see if they can reproduce some positive effects of being drunk by taking a sip of beer once a day.
  - tedks 13y ago
    This is about microdosing, not tripping. There are some claims (one recently on reddit/r/nootropics) that taking very low doses of LSD will have various positive cognitive effects. Gwern here attempts to test these claims. If people said that taking a sip of beer had positive effects, I'd expect Gwern to test that as well.
gwern 13y ago
> I simply cannot take that seriously from someone who has not had a proper psychedelic trip from LSD. "You have no idea" would be a massive understatement. I thought my trip was pretty proper, and I did not see any reason afterwards to modify what I wrote in advance. I realize VitaCat's tab, while advertised as 250μg, may really have been more like 150μg, but I wouldn't call that not a 'proper psychedelic trip', and I think I do at least have some idea.