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Oh god, not this conspiracy theory paid shill nonsense again. If I had a dollar for every time I was called a shill for saying anything positive about Microsoft

Oh god, not this conspiracy theory paid shill nonsense again. If I had a dollar for every time I was called a shill for saying anything positive about Microsoft, well, it still wouldn't make me a paid shill. There's an alternative to your theory that requires fewer assumptions and only requires reasoning based on the types of people involved in the discussions you mention. People who like Windows 8 were comfortable using it in new ways, people who didn't want to change didn't like it. The people who don't want to change still don't want to change and so of course they are still complaining. Me? I'm tired of debating people on whether or not Windows 8 was an improvement over 7 or not. Usually it comes down to dogmatic beliefs over how they think Windows should work and those beliefs are at odds with how Microsoft thinks it should work. Why argue with dogmatism? As evidence for the dogmatism of this belief, look no further than your own comment. You simply cannot believe anyone would think Windows 8 was good, or that Windows 8.1 is good. You and the House stenographer would get along.

e40 13y ago
People who like Windows 8 were comfortable using it in new ways, people who didn't want to change didn't like it. Go read the blog entry and tell me that's about change. You can't look at that large list of problems and tell me it's my problem.
- untog 13y ago
  You're talking about yourself (and repeatedly telling people to go read your blog post, which they're not required to do) - the other posters are talking about users in general. No doubt that you may well be an outlier. Every piece of software has groups of people who use it differently, including some that are infuriated by it. That doesn't mean that everyone that posts a positive experience is a paid shill.
- ximeng 13y ago
  I'm happy with Windows 8, and your blog entry doesn't reflect my experience.
vertex-four 13y ago
> People who like Windows 8 were comfortable using it in new ways, people who didn't want to change didn't like it. I'm fully comfortable changing how my desktop works. I've used Windows 98, Windows XP, Windows 7, and even Windows Vista on other computers. I've administrated Windows Server editions from 2000 to 2012. I've also used several Linux distros with varying desktop environments. I'm now using Debian Wheezy, after primarily using Windows environments my entire life. I still say Windows 8 doesn't solve any problems that I have, and introduces several. That is why I don't use it and don't recommend it. The split-brain nature of the operating system makes it close to unusable, for both myself and a number of non-technical people I know.
alrs 13y ago
Scoff scoff scoff. Microsoft has been caught planting shills in online communities for 20 years. http://web.archive.org/web/19980112192836/http://www.pjprimer.com/jihad.html http://web.archive.org/web/19980112192836/http://www.pjprime...
drbawb 13y ago
Yeah by GPs logic I suppose I am also a "paid shill." You know why I'm not on Reddit supporting Windows 8 any more? Windows 8 works for me -- it works _fantastically._ I'm a little preoccupied with enjoying my computer; I see no reason to surround myself with a stream of negativity about an OS that has worked flawlessly for me.

e40 13y ago

People who like Windows 8 were comfortable using it in new ways, people who didn't want to change didn't like it. Go read the blog entry and tell me that's about change. You can't look at that large list of problems and tell me it's my problem.

untog 13y ago
You're talking about yourself (and repeatedly telling people to go read your blog post, which they're not required to do) - the other posters are talking about users in general. No doubt that you may well be an outlier. Every piece of software has groups of people who use it differently, including some that are infuriated by it. That doesn't mean that everyone that posts a positive experience is a paid shill.
ximeng 13y ago
I'm happy with Windows 8, and your blog entry doesn't reflect my experience.

vertex-four 13y ago

> People who like Windows 8 were comfortable using it in new ways, people who didn't want to change didn't like it. I'm fully comfortable changing how my desktop works. I've used Windows 98, Windows XP, Windows 7, and even Windows Vista on other computers. I've administrated Windows Server editions from 2000 to 2012. I've also used several Linux distros with varying desktop environments. I'm now using Debian Wheezy, after primarily using Windows environments my entire life. I still say Windows 8 doesn't solve any problems that I have, and introduces several. That is why I don't use it and don't recommend it. The split-brain nature of the operating system makes it close to unusable, for both myself and a number of non-technical people I know.

alrs 13y ago

Scoff scoff scoff. Microsoft has been caught planting shills in online communities for 20 years. http://web.archive.org/web/19980112192836/http://www.pjprimer.com/jihad.html http://web.archive.org/web/19980112192836/http://www.pjprime...

drbawb 13y ago

Yeah by GPs logic I suppose I am also a "paid shill." You know why I'm not on Reddit supporting Windows 8 any more? Windows 8 works for me -- it works _fantastically._ I'm a little preoccupied with enjoying my computer; I see no reason to surround myself with a stream of negativity about an OS that has worked flawlessly for me.