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Web is finally refreshed. And release notes are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes

by endijs 13y ago

mkr-hn 13y ago
The submission might be better linked to this instead.
qznc 13y ago
Quite boring for desktop end users. No real changes. That is probably a good thing, since changes in Ubuntu usually means breakage.
- puller 13y ago
  I don't think you are fair to Ubuntu in this comment. Change in Fedora or Debian Testing usually means breakage. I hear Arch breaks things now and then too. Even Windows breaks things... in all cases, this is avoided by choosing a stable or LTS variant and upgrading less frequently. There aren't that many top tier distributions to choose from, the main choice is how much time you want packages tested before using them. If you want more testing and older packages, use Debian Stable, Ubuntu LTS, Redhat/CentOS... but don't stack the deck against Ubuntu by comparing its fresh distro to other people's LTS distros, compare apples to apples.
- endijs 13y ago
  On Destkop there is reason to upgrade if you are using stock software and kernel (as I'm). Unity in 13.10 feels more responsive than in 13.04 was. Pretty much everything is bumped to newer versions. Even things in VirtualBox work faster now (13.04 was installing 4.2.10, but 13.10 is installing 4.2.16). Dont know what is the reason for speed gains - Kernel in Ubuntu or newer VirtualBox. One thing to do after upgrade is to disable smart scopes. No reason to share search queries with Canonical. I was hoping that 13.10 will solve my sound problems, but no luck. Just like in 13.04 i hear crackling noises. But those are specifics of my laptop.
  - spindritf 13y ago
    VirtulBox offers a repo for Ubuntu. deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian raring contrib non-free $ VirtualBox --help Oracle VM VirtualBox Manager 4.2.18 It also carries virtualbox-4.3 if you're feeling adventurous.
    - endijs 13y ago
      Good to know. I will stick with 4.2 branch for now. :) Need to wait for at least 4.3.1. Too many things changed in 4.3.
  - k_bx 13y ago
    Yeah, I had to switch to Vmware player due to crackling noise, VirtualBox devs commented somewhere that it's all very specific to hardware and not in their "main focus", so they don't seem to be very interested fixing it.
  - datr 13y ago
    I wonder if the crackling sound could be related to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-sizzle-distorted-bad http://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-s... ?

Web is finally refreshed. And release notes are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes

by endijs 13y ago

Web is finally refreshed. And release notes are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes

mkr-hn 13y ago

The submission might be better linked to this instead.

qznc 13y ago

Quite boring for desktop end users. No real changes. That is probably a good thing, since changes in Ubuntu usually means breakage.

puller 13y ago
I don't think you are fair to Ubuntu in this comment. Change in Fedora or Debian Testing usually means breakage. I hear Arch breaks things now and then too. Even Windows breaks things... in all cases, this is avoided by choosing a stable or LTS variant and upgrading less frequently. There aren't that many top tier distributions to choose from, the main choice is how much time you want packages tested before using them. If you want more testing and older packages, use Debian Stable, Ubuntu LTS, Redhat/CentOS... but don't stack the deck against Ubuntu by comparing its fresh distro to other people's LTS distros, compare apples to apples.
endijs 13y ago
On Destkop there is reason to upgrade if you are using stock software and kernel (as I'm). Unity in 13.10 feels more responsive than in 13.04 was. Pretty much everything is bumped to newer versions. Even things in VirtualBox work faster now (13.04 was installing 4.2.10, but 13.10 is installing 4.2.16). Dont know what is the reason for speed gains - Kernel in Ubuntu or newer VirtualBox. One thing to do after upgrade is to disable smart scopes. No reason to share search queries with Canonical. I was hoping that 13.10 will solve my sound problems, but no luck. Just like in 13.04 i hear crackling noises. But those are specifics of my laptop.
- spindritf 13y ago
  VirtulBox offers a repo for Ubuntu. deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian raring contrib non-free $ VirtualBox --help Oracle VM VirtualBox Manager 4.2.18 It also carries virtualbox-4.3 if you're feeling adventurous.
  - endijs 13y ago
    Good to know. I will stick with 4.2 branch for now. :) Need to wait for at least 4.3.1. Too many things changed in 4.3.
- k_bx 13y ago
  Yeah, I had to switch to Vmware player due to crackling noise, VirtualBox devs commented somewhere that it's all very specific to hardware and not in their "main focus", so they don't seem to be very interested fixing it.
- datr 13y ago
  I wonder if the crackling sound could be related to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-sizzle-distorted-bad http://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-s... ?