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Does anyone really believe there aren't similar entities in other countries doing the same? This argument is often used, and it's a bad one because it ignores
by workhere-io 13y ago
Does anyone really believe there aren't similar entities in other countries doing the same?
This argument is often used, and it's a bad one because it ignores that there are different levels of surveillance. No one is saying that other countries don't respond to illegal stuff going on on the Internet. But not every country in the world has opted for the all-out, monitor-every-law-abiding-citizen thing that NSA is doing.
Save for the UK, I can't think of a single Western European country that goes to the extreme lengths of surveillance that the US does.
- crbnw00ts 13y ago> Save for the UK, I can't think of a single Western European country that goes to the extreme lengths of surveillance that the US does. People were equally skeptical about the extent of the US's surveillance until the Snowden revelations. It always seems far-fetched ... right up until the moment it doesn't.
- workhere-io 13y agoThe big difference is that in the years before the Snowden revelations there were a lot of signs of things going on (e.g. when Washington Post revealed that 800,000 people worked in US intelligence and had a high security clearance [1] ). Signs as big as that have not been present for the EU, even when you count in Echelon. 1) http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/a-hidden-world-growing-beyond-control/ http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articl...