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No, it's not released. The release is imminent. Ubuntu is developed in the open, so you get to see candidate release images on the page linked. Ubuntu is not

by rlpb 13y ago

No, it's not released. The release is imminent. Ubuntu is developed in the open, so you get to see candidate release images on the page linked. Ubuntu is not released until the release is announced. If you're in doubt, expect to see an announcement on the ubuntu-announce mailing list, or its archive at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ Also see #ubuntu-release-party on Freenode. At the moment, the topic says "... No, it's not out yet | No, we don't have a set time for release" (written as of Thu, 17 Oct 2013 10:55:59 +0000; obviously this post will become incorrect as soon as it actually is released)

RossM 13y ago
Agree, this is probably premature. However the homepage does advertise 13.10 so it's probably imminent: > Ubuntu Server 13.10 with OpenStack Havana, are you ready?
kintamanimatt 13y ago
This is the release. These aren't candidate release images. They're just likely waiting until 13:10 GMT to officially announce it. I believe 13.04 was released at 13:04 too.
- jessaustin 13y ago
  Every time, these releases get later and later!
  - samspenc 13y ago
    I wonder what they will do after 23.10 . :D
    - Touche 13y ago
      They'll be closed source by then so it won't matter.
      - rlpb 13y ago
        "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be." --http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy From that page, it is clear that Ubuntu uses the FSF definition of "free" (and quotes it). The suggestion that Ubuntu will be closed source in the future is FUD. Everything that Canonical ships in Ubuntu is open source with an open bug tracker and open version control. (with the exception of proprietary drivers and Flash, etc, written outside the project, done for pragmatic reasons and optional with a clear option at installation time; this stuff has not increased but reduced in scope with things like nouveau available now).
rlpb 13y ago
Now it's out. [Edit] Actual release announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-October/000177.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-Octob...
chatman 13y ago
> Ubuntu is developed in the open Though mostly "open", but not developed entirely in the right free software / open source spirit of community involvement and upstream contributions.
- Flimm 13y ago
  Of course it's not developed 100% entirely in the open and with "spirit of community". Name one company that meets this standard.
  - zxcdw 13y ago
    Mozilla.
    - throwaway2048 13y ago
      Mozilla's bugzilla and mailing lists are approved posts only, that's not very open.
      - simonster 13y ago
        Source? I don't recall jumping through any hoops to post on Bugzilla or mozilla.dev.platform, and I definitely have no relationship with Mozilla.
        throwaway2048 13y ago
        Approved as in the posts need to be OK'd by a mod before being shown. And yes, they do censor heavily, try posting a well reasoned complaint about australis for instance and watch your mail not get approved.
        simonster 13y ago
        If the posts have to be approved by mods, they're not doing a very good job: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox/RyXSTjJVG3M https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.apps.fir... https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/COAb99w8H6U https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform... On another project I'm involved in, I've seen Google Groups decide that legitimate posts are spam. Not sure if that's what's happening here, but it's a possibility.
yapcguy 13y ago
Did anybody notice the zsync download links, next to the Torrent links? Anybody have experience with zsync downloads? Is it supposed to update a previous 13.10 Beta ISO, or any previous ISO, e.g. the 13.04 release? http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ Also, I wonder why they don't use magnet links instead of torrent files.
- jablan 13y ago
  zsync can update any file, even an empty one (just rename it to the target file name). However, I am not sure how much you would actually save by using older ISOs.

by rlpb 13y ago

RossM 13y ago

Agree, this is probably premature. However the homepage does advertise 13.10 so it's probably imminent: > Ubuntu Server 13.10 with OpenStack Havana, are you ready?

kintamanimatt 13y ago

This is the release. These aren't candidate release images. They're just likely waiting until 13:10 GMT to officially announce it. I believe 13.04 was released at 13:04 too.

jessaustin 13y ago
Every time, these releases get later and later!
- samspenc 13y ago
  I wonder what they will do after 23.10 . :D
  - Touche 13y ago
    They'll be closed source by then so it won't matter.
    - rlpb 13y ago
      "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be." --http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy From that page, it is clear that Ubuntu uses the FSF definition of "free" (and quotes it). The suggestion that Ubuntu will be closed source in the future is FUD. Everything that Canonical ships in Ubuntu is open source with an open bug tracker and open version control. (with the exception of proprietary drivers and Flash, etc, written outside the project, done for pragmatic reasons and optional with a clear option at installation time; this stuff has not increased but reduced in scope with things like nouveau available now).

rlpb 13y ago

Now it's out. [Edit] Actual release announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-October/000177.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-Octob...

chatman 13y ago

> Ubuntu is developed in the open Though mostly "open", but not developed entirely in the right free software / open source spirit of community involvement and upstream contributions.

Flimm 13y ago
Of course it's not developed 100% entirely in the open and with "spirit of community". Name one company that meets this standard.
- zxcdw 13y ago
  Mozilla.
  - throwaway2048 13y ago
    Mozilla's bugzilla and mailing lists are approved posts only, that's not very open.
    - simonster 13y ago
      Source? I don't recall jumping through any hoops to post on Bugzilla or mozilla.dev.platform, and I definitely have no relationship with Mozilla.
      - throwaway2048 13y ago
        Approved as in the posts need to be OK'd by a mod before being shown. And yes, they do censor heavily, try posting a well reasoned complaint about australis for instance and watch your mail not get approved.
        simonster 13y ago
        If the posts have to be approved by mods, they're not doing a very good job: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox/RyXSTjJVG3M https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.apps.fir... https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/COAb99w8H6U https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform... On another project I'm involved in, I've seen Google Groups decide that legitimate posts are spam. Not sure if that's what's happening here, but it's a possibility.

yapcguy 13y ago

Did anybody notice the zsync download links, next to the Torrent links? Anybody have experience with zsync downloads? Is it supposed to update a previous 13.10 Beta ISO, or any previous ISO, e.g. the 13.04 release? http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ Also, I wonder why they don't use magnet links instead of torrent files.

jablan 13y ago
zsync can update any file, even an empty one (just rename it to the target file name). However, I am not sure how much you would actually save by using older ISOs.