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The article certainly seems wrong. Other than Hawaii which is an obvious outlier (36.61) the most expensive mainland electricity in the US is in California at 1

by smokinn 13y ago

The article certainly seems wrong. Other than Hawaii which is an obvious outlier (36.61) the most expensive mainland electricity in the US is in California at 16.71. http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_6_a http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm... In the Europe the story is quite similar. The country with the most expensive electricity is Denmark at 29.5 but most vary between 10 and 20 cents. http://www.energy.eu/ http://www.energy.eu/

acomjean 13y ago
It is wrong. The links you provide seem to be more accurate. I write software that deals with monitoring power (powerhouse dynamics). We have customers in a lot of states, and to estimate their costs they have to input the cost per/kWh. In the US power costs usually between 8-12 cents per kilowatt hour. There are extra costs if your commercial which can add 10-20%. We've found that power cost, especially commercial power is oddly hard to estimate with "demand charges" and rates varrying with time... There are a few companies compiling this cost data in detail which we'll likely be buying soon.
- marincounty 13y ago
  I know in the Bay Area Commercial rates charged by PG&E are lower than Residential. Never understood why. Actually, our electricity in the SF Area is very expensive. I don't know why. One half of our power is from Dams. I think it's 1/2. Actually, I think they charge us so much is because they know we will pay. To all the Élon Musk fans, I wonder what your PG&E bill will be? While I'm on this subject--yea, I'm an electrician, don't heat your house with elecrtic heaters. They will really eat up the kilowatts, and look into Radiant hydronic heating if updating. My bill is 1/4 of what it used to be. You can install yourself, if determined.
  - yardie 13y ago
    I learned this the expensive, hard way. I had a studio in Paris that only had electric heat. 2 months after it started getting really cold I got the electric bill, $250. After that I shut off the heater at the breaker, bought a portable heater and a jug (20L) of kerosene for $80. That jug lasted 2 winters.
  - acomjean 13y ago
    I grew up in a house with electric heat in Massachusetts (not known for its mild winters). Your not kidding about electric heat being expensive. We wore a lot of sweaters in the winter before my parents installed a oil heater.

by smokinn 13y ago

acomjean 13y ago

It is wrong. The links you provide seem to be more accurate. I write software that deals with monitoring power (powerhouse dynamics). We have customers in a lot of states, and to estimate their costs they have to input the cost per/kWh. In the US power costs usually between 8-12 cents per kilowatt hour. There are extra costs if your commercial which can add 10-20%. We've found that power cost, especially commercial power is oddly hard to estimate with "demand charges" and rates varrying with time... There are a few companies compiling this cost data in detail which we'll likely be buying soon.

marincounty 13y ago
I know in the Bay Area Commercial rates charged by PG&E are lower than Residential. Never understood why. Actually, our electricity in the SF Area is very expensive. I don't know why. One half of our power is from Dams. I think it's 1/2. Actually, I think they charge us so much is because they know we will pay. To all the Élon Musk fans, I wonder what your PG&E bill will be? While I'm on this subject--yea, I'm an electrician, don't heat your house with elecrtic heaters. They will really eat up the kilowatts, and look into Radiant hydronic heating if updating. My bill is 1/4 of what it used to be. You can install yourself, if determined.
- yardie 13y ago
  I learned this the expensive, hard way. I had a studio in Paris that only had electric heat. 2 months after it started getting really cold I got the electric bill, $250. After that I shut off the heater at the breaker, bought a portable heater and a jug (20L) of kerosene for $80. That jug lasted 2 winters.
- acomjean 13y ago
  I grew up in a house with electric heat in Massachusetts (not known for its mild winters). Your not kidding about electric heat being expensive. We wore a lot of sweaters in the winter before my parents installed a oil heater.