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I think if a dev bootcamp is confident, they won't charge their students unless they land a job. (Added: a few people have noted that App Academy is a bootcamp

I think if a dev bootcamp is confident, they won't charge their students unless they land a job. (Added: a few people have noted that App Academy is a bootcamp that uses this model.) I personally prefer the https://www.hackerschool.com/ https://www.hackerschool.com/ model. It is not a "bootcamp". There is no structure, aside from what the students come up with themselves. It's a good place for both newbies and seasoned vets alike. It is free. They make their money by helping students get jobs at partner companies. If a student gets a job at a partner company, the company pays the fee, not the student. Disclaimer: I attended Hacker School and got a job through them. It was a worthwhile sabbatical and "reboot" for my career (after being burnt out by my previous software job of six years).

malloreon 13y ago
"I think if a dev bootcamp is confident, they won't charge their students unless they land a job." App Academy in SF/NYC does this. Note: I attended App Academy.
- james1071 13y ago
  I wouldn't draw to many conclusions from what is happening now with 'dev bootcamps'. They are a new segment of the education industry and many players are fighting for their share of a market that is under-exploited. Strategies such as charging students only when they get a job should be regarded as short-term moves to establish the reputation of the provider. What will probably happen as the 'dev bootcamp' sector matures is that it will become more like that of other education providers. Providers will inevitably have a trade-off between maintaining the quality of developers that they produce and the amount of profit that they earn.
nezaj 13y ago
I think if a dev bootcamp is confident, they won't charge their students unless they land a job. You mean like App Academy? http://www.appacademy.io/#p-home http://www.appacademy.io/#p-home Edit: I attended App Academy as well
RogerL 13y ago
"I think if a dev bootcamp is confident, they won't charge their students unless they land a job." That sounds seriously un-optimal. Like it or not, some people will sign up and for whatever reason not get a job. They decide they hate programming. They have a mental health issue. They are not very smart. Parents get ill and they have to move across the country. And so on. So, to make the same money, the company will have to charge the successful students more money. Why should I, a smart student, pay more money and subsidize the untalented, unmotivated, or just unlucky student. It makes no sense why I would want that.
- bhaumik 13y ago
  That's not how it works at any bootcamps. Reasons #1,2,3 you mentioned can be somewhat filtered in the application process.

malloreon 13y ago

"I think if a dev bootcamp is confident, they won't charge their students unless they land a job." App Academy in SF/NYC does this. Note: I attended App Academy.

james1071 13y ago
I wouldn't draw to many conclusions from what is happening now with 'dev bootcamps'. They are a new segment of the education industry and many players are fighting for their share of a market that is under-exploited. Strategies such as charging students only when they get a job should be regarded as short-term moves to establish the reputation of the provider. What will probably happen as the 'dev bootcamp' sector matures is that it will become more like that of other education providers. Providers will inevitably have a trade-off between maintaining the quality of developers that they produce and the amount of profit that they earn.

nezaj 13y ago

I think if a dev bootcamp is confident, they won't charge their students unless they land a job. You mean like App Academy? http://www.appacademy.io/#p-home http://www.appacademy.io/#p-home Edit: I attended App Academy as well

RogerL 13y ago

"I think if a dev bootcamp is confident, they won't charge their students unless they land a job." That sounds seriously un-optimal. Like it or not, some people will sign up and for whatever reason not get a job. They decide they hate programming. They have a mental health issue. They are not very smart. Parents get ill and they have to move across the country. And so on. So, to make the same money, the company will have to charge the successful students more money. Why should I, a smart student, pay more money and subsidize the untalented, unmotivated, or just unlucky student. It makes no sense why I would want that.

bhaumik 13y ago
That's not how it works at any bootcamps. Reasons #1,2,3 you mentioned can be somewhat filtered in the application process.