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Erlang is really good, especially for engineers with hardware background, who may find FP & Message Passing are more intuitive than OOP & Context Switching. Bu

Erlang is really good, especially for engineers with hardware background, who may find FP & Message Passing are more intuitive than OOP & Context Switching. But it's quite difficult to hire.

reginaldjcooper 13y ago
Difficult as in you are looking for Erlangers but cannot find them? I haven't seen many postings looking for Erlang programmers.
- yapcguy 13y ago
  Seems to be the same thing with Haskell and other languages, including Golang, that many groups on HN are passionate about. There aren't many people hiring for skills in these languages. Some start-up founders I know who have built their company on Python and Javascript, when I ask them if they have looked at Golang, they reply 'What's that?'.
  - skriticos2 13y ago
    I'd be happy if someone would hire Python. Most of it is Java, PHP and C# around here. So sad.
    - wtracy 13y ago
      Where's "here"? I constantly get emails from recruiters looking for Python devs. (I'm in the SF area, but a lot of the ads I see are for New York and parts of the Midwest.)
      - yen223 13y ago
        Quite frankly, "here" could be anywhere that's not near the Bay Area.
        skriticos2 13y ago
        I think so too. I'm located in Germany, but I think this situation applies to most all of the word except the west coast of the U.S.
  - cmccabe 13y ago
    Python is 22 years old, Golang is 4 years old. Give it time.
    - RussianCow 13y ago
      Haskell is even older, but you don't see many job ads for it. I don't think it has much to do with the age of the language. Node.js is an example of a very young platform that many, many startups are using. (Although, to be fair, JavaScript has been around for quite some time now.)
      - cmccabe 13y ago
        In order for a programming language to get used: * it has to fill a need people have. * people have to know about it. * it has to have a mature implementation. Age helps with point #2 and #3. With regard to JavaScript, the web browser pretty much forces you to use it. So it doesn't really matter how good or bad it is, it will have adoption.
  - reginaldjcooper 13y ago
    Yeah I don't see many positions for Haskell, either (and I'd like to). OOP class systems are so irritating when you could get more powerful type-checking from less boilerplate. Maybe I should look into F#? AFAICT it seems to be Haskell's sister, who left academia to do finance and is pulling seven figures in her early twenties.
    - marshray 13y ago
      My group in Azure is hiring. I don't think we have any Haskell in production, but I sure bet we could get away with using F# and the new immutable collections for a lot of new stuff. zip [marshray@; maray] [live.com; @microsoft.com] Email me, I'd love some coworkers who were really into FP.
      - lt4 13y ago
        This sounds interesting. If you don't mind I'd like to get in touch also.
        marshray 13y ago
        Yes that'd be awesome!
mpweiher 13y ago
"FP & Message Passing are more intuitive than OOP & Context Switching." Huh? OOP & Message Passing! http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/1998-October/017019.html http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/1998-...
CmonDev 13y ago
Space pilots and nuclear plant engineers are hard to hire because you need hardware to train. Hiring software developers just requires willingness to pay more money than market.

Erlang is really good, especially for engineers with hardware background, who may find FP & Message Passing are more intuitive than OOP & Context Switching. But it's quite difficult to hire.

reginaldjcooper 13y ago

Difficult as in you are looking for Erlangers but cannot find them? I haven't seen many postings looking for Erlang programmers.

yapcguy 13y ago
Seems to be the same thing with Haskell and other languages, including Golang, that many groups on HN are passionate about. There aren't many people hiring for skills in these languages. Some start-up founders I know who have built their company on Python and Javascript, when I ask them if they have looked at Golang, they reply 'What's that?'.
- skriticos2 13y ago
  I'd be happy if someone would hire Python. Most of it is Java, PHP and C# around here. So sad.
  - wtracy 13y ago
    Where's "here"? I constantly get emails from recruiters looking for Python devs. (I'm in the SF area, but a lot of the ads I see are for New York and parts of the Midwest.)
    - yen223 13y ago
      Quite frankly, "here" could be anywhere that's not near the Bay Area.
      - skriticos2 13y ago
        I think so too. I'm located in Germany, but I think this situation applies to most all of the word except the west coast of the U.S.
- cmccabe 13y ago
  Python is 22 years old, Golang is 4 years old. Give it time.
  - RussianCow 13y ago
    Haskell is even older, but you don't see many job ads for it. I don't think it has much to do with the age of the language. Node.js is an example of a very young platform that many, many startups are using. (Although, to be fair, JavaScript has been around for quite some time now.)
    - cmccabe 13y ago
      In order for a programming language to get used: * it has to fill a need people have. * people have to know about it. * it has to have a mature implementation. Age helps with point #2 and #3. With regard to JavaScript, the web browser pretty much forces you to use it. So it doesn't really matter how good or bad it is, it will have adoption.
- reginaldjcooper 13y ago
  Yeah I don't see many positions for Haskell, either (and I'd like to). OOP class systems are so irritating when you could get more powerful type-checking from less boilerplate. Maybe I should look into F#? AFAICT it seems to be Haskell's sister, who left academia to do finance and is pulling seven figures in her early twenties.
  - marshray 13y ago
    My group in Azure is hiring. I don't think we have any Haskell in production, but I sure bet we could get away with using F# and the new immutable collections for a lot of new stuff. zip [marshray@; maray] [live.com; @microsoft.com] Email me, I'd love some coworkers who were really into FP.
    - lt4 13y ago
      This sounds interesting. If you don't mind I'd like to get in touch also.
      - marshray 13y ago
        Yes that'd be awesome!

mpweiher 13y ago

"FP & Message Passing are more intuitive than OOP & Context Switching." Huh? OOP & Message Passing! http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/1998-October/017019.html http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/1998-...

CmonDev 13y ago

Space pilots and nuclear plant engineers are hard to hire because you need hardware to train. Hiring software developers just requires willingness to pay more money than market.