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The "problem" is that the House, the Senate, and the President (unless a veto is overcome) all have to agree- and so far, that hasn't happened. The Dems have a

The "problem" is that the House, the Senate, and the President (unless a veto is overcome) all have to agree- and so far, that hasn't happened. The Dems have a pretty good PR department, and are doing a good job of spinning it as though it is a problem with the (Republican led) House, though.

Mikeb85 13y ago
> The Dems have a pretty good PR department, and are doing a good job of spinning it as though it is a problem with the (Republican led) House, though. This is funny. Even funnier is that the Republicans don't realize that most of society doesn't share their values or opinions. http://www.taylormarsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Obama_WhiteHouseConfederateFlag.jpg http://www.taylormarsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Obama_...
toomuchtodo 13y ago
Your comment is extremely disingenuous. House Republicans have failed at all efforts at blocking the ACA/Obamacare, and are now attempting to play chicken against global markets in order to effect the outcome they desire. They should be dragged to a public square, tarred and feathered.
betterunix 13y ago
Nobody needs PR crew to spin it that way. Only a lunatic could have honestly believe that a president would abandon his most significant achievement since taking office. So either Boehner and the minority of Republicans he is working with are lunatics, or else they are willing to risk ravaging an already suffering economy for the sake of undoing a single law.
- ensignavenger 13y ago
  Few of the Rethuglicans actually expect the President or the Dems to completely abandon ObamaCare. They would like a few concessions, perhaps merely offering a delay for a year in the individual mandate while the dust settles on the health exchanges, would have been enough. Up until a few days ago, the dems refused to even talk to the rethuglicans about it.
dragonwriter 13y ago
> The Dems have a pretty good PR department, and are doing a good job of spinning it as though it is a problem with the (Republican led) House Rep. Peter King (R-NY) -- who has characterized the shutdown as something the Republican-led House (and the House leadership, particularly) did at the prompting of Republican Senator Ted Cruz --- would probably be pretty surprised to find that he was a Democratic PR operative.
- ensignavenger 13y ago
  Or perhaps, he's a politician trying to distance himself from the negative public opinion that has resulted from that PR?
comrade_ogilvy 13y ago
False equivalency. It was only the House Reps who were claiming the moral authority to hold a gun to the head of our economy, in order to squeeze concessions that they cannot possibly win by any normal legislative procedure. Senator Reid could choose to do so. He does not, because it would be stupidly disruptive to create a crisis for a debt ceiling.

Mikeb85 13y ago

> The Dems have a pretty good PR department, and are doing a good job of spinning it as though it is a problem with the (Republican led) House, though. This is funny. Even funnier is that the Republicans don't realize that most of society doesn't share their values or opinions. http://www.taylormarsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Obama_WhiteHouseConfederateFlag.jpg http://www.taylormarsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Obama_...

toomuchtodo 13y ago

Your comment is extremely disingenuous. House Republicans have failed at all efforts at blocking the ACA/Obamacare, and are now attempting to play chicken against global markets in order to effect the outcome they desire. They should be dragged to a public square, tarred and feathered.

betterunix 13y ago

Nobody needs PR crew to spin it that way. Only a lunatic could have honestly believe that a president would abandon his most significant achievement since taking office. So either Boehner and the minority of Republicans he is working with are lunatics, or else they are willing to risk ravaging an already suffering economy for the sake of undoing a single law.

ensignavenger 13y ago
Few of the Rethuglicans actually expect the President or the Dems to completely abandon ObamaCare. They would like a few concessions, perhaps merely offering a delay for a year in the individual mandate while the dust settles on the health exchanges, would have been enough. Up until a few days ago, the dems refused to even talk to the rethuglicans about it.

dragonwriter 13y ago

> The Dems have a pretty good PR department, and are doing a good job of spinning it as though it is a problem with the (Republican led) House Rep. Peter King (R-NY) -- who has characterized the shutdown as something the Republican-led House (and the House leadership, particularly) did at the prompting of Republican Senator Ted Cruz --- would probably be pretty surprised to find that he was a Democratic PR operative.

ensignavenger 13y ago
Or perhaps, he's a politician trying to distance himself from the negative public opinion that has resulted from that PR?

comrade_ogilvy 13y ago

False equivalency. It was only the House Reps who were claiming the moral authority to hold a gun to the head of our economy, in order to squeeze concessions that they cannot possibly win by any normal legislative procedure. Senator Reid could choose to do so. He does not, because it would be stupidly disruptive to create a crisis for a debt ceiling.