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I agree with the Rails-centrism issue. Even alternative web frameworks have a hard time in the Ruby world. I disagree with the assumption that Ruby is web only

by Argorak 13y ago

I agree with the Rails-centrism issue. Even alternative web frameworks have a hard time in the Ruby world. I disagree with the assumption that Ruby is web only. E.g. Chef and Puppet are huge efforts that have no direct connection to frontend web, both written in Ruby. Vagrant as well. Ruby is big in the infrastructure world.

marcocampos 13y ago
What about game framework, computer vision, scientific computing, robotics, etc? I'm sure you can come up with examples for each of these but most are either dormant/abandoned or simply non-existant. As for infrastructure, yes Chef and Puppet are big in the startup world but I know a lot more companies using Python or Java for that.
- Argorak 13y ago
  Does it help that I know far more companies using Chef and Puppet for that then Python and Java?
  - empthought 13y ago
    Depends, do they have a fraction of the IT staff that Tivoli and Opsware users have? I'm guessing not.
    - Argorak 13y ago
      I usually work for DAX companies. Yes. My point was that your personal sample is most probably irrelevant.
- ruok0101 13y ago
  I've been doing some robotics stuff using my arduino and ruby via the dino gem (https://github.com/austinbv/dino https://github.com/austinbv/dino)
- chc 13y ago
  Companies use Java instead of Puppet? How does the conversation go where you even start to compare those two things?
  - empthought 13y ago
    "Hey do we have $X million for Opsware?" "Sure thing." "Damn it feels good to be a banker."
- bascule 13y ago
  For robotics, see Artoo: http://artoo.io/ http://artoo.io/
- petercooper 13y ago
  http://www.rubymotion.com/ http://www.rubymotion.com/ is an increasingly big deal for iOS (and now Mac) development.
neves 13y ago
It is funny to ready Ruby guys complaining of the lack of web frameworks alternatives. Python community likes to complain that they have too much web frameworks. Nobody is ever satisfied :-)

by Argorak 13y ago

marcocampos 13y ago

What about game framework, computer vision, scientific computing, robotics, etc? I'm sure you can come up with examples for each of these but most are either dormant/abandoned or simply non-existant. As for infrastructure, yes Chef and Puppet are big in the startup world but I know a lot more companies using Python or Java for that.

Argorak 13y ago
Does it help that I know far more companies using Chef and Puppet for that then Python and Java?
- empthought 13y ago
  Depends, do they have a fraction of the IT staff that Tivoli and Opsware users have? I'm guessing not.
  - Argorak 13y ago
    I usually work for DAX companies. Yes. My point was that your personal sample is most probably irrelevant.
ruok0101 13y ago
I've been doing some robotics stuff using my arduino and ruby via the dino gem (https://github.com/austinbv/dino https://github.com/austinbv/dino)
chc 13y ago
Companies use Java instead of Puppet? How does the conversation go where you even start to compare those two things?
- empthought 13y ago
  "Hey do we have $X million for Opsware?" "Sure thing." "Damn it feels good to be a banker."
bascule 13y ago
For robotics, see Artoo: http://artoo.io/ http://artoo.io/
petercooper 13y ago
http://www.rubymotion.com/ http://www.rubymotion.com/ is an increasingly big deal for iOS (and now Mac) development.

neves 13y ago

It is funny to ready Ruby guys complaining of the lack of web frameworks alternatives. Python community likes to complain that they have too much web frameworks. Nobody is ever satisfied :-)