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Indeed, I wanted to mention this as well. Furthermore, I think Python (actually Jython) is starting to become for prevalent in the enterprise space. I've seen

Indeed, I wanted to mention this as well. Furthermore, I think Python (actually Jython) is starting to become for prevalent in the enterprise space. I've seen a few different enterprise software suites from companies like IBM and HP that support writing extensions in Jython. I know that the JVM implementation of Ruby is JRuby, but is anyone using that in production? Jython seems relatively more stable/mature, but I really don't know much about JRuby.

rurounijones 13y ago
From memory on the torquebox (application server for jruby based on jboss) or the jruby mailing list there was one guy who worked for a large gaming studio (I think it was one of sony's gaming divisions) who use jruby and torquebox for the network backend[1] of their AAA games. [1] Gamer / game analytics, logins etc. Basically APIs that their games call over the network for the more "social / analytics" stuff. Personally I have used jruby in the past for implementations of services where we needed to use java libraries.
beat 13y ago
The only time I've ever used Jython is for administrating Websphere. And nothing says bloated overpriced overcomplicated time-wasting enterprise nightmare like Websphere. Seriously, businesses will spend the equivalent of ten programmers' salaries on Websphere licenses, but they'd never consider hiring ten programmers. It's the poster child of corporate timidity in risk aversion drag. But I digress.
Xylakant 13y ago
I know of a couple of installations that use jruby in production. It's often coupled with some sort of java service in the backend, so sure, it's used in production. It's also stable, even though it tends to lag a little behind cruby in some features. The 2.0.0 feature set is not yet implemented fully.
- beat 13y ago
  I'm using JRuby in the code I'm developing for my startup, in order to access Java libs I need. The biggest issue has been that it doesn't support Ruby 2.0 yet, which is merely aesthetic at this point for me. JRuby hasn't given me any grief since I got it going.
riffraff 13y ago
jython used to be popular many years ago when it was the most decent language to add scripting to a java app. I don't _think_ it's very popular as a scripting language for new java stuff, and it still only supports python 2.5 which is 8 years old.
rst 13y ago
Constant Contact uses Rails on jruby pretty extensively, because of improved performance and JVM integration. There was also a talk at Boston's Wicked Good Ruby conference of a case study of a large Struts 2 app getting extended in Rails on JRuby. (I asked about Grails as an alternative; not only was Groovy more painful than Ruby to work in, but Grails itself, in the speaker's experience, was more difficult to integrate into an existing application stack. Which is something the Grails folks might want to look into, if it's correct...)

rurounijones 13y ago

From memory on the torquebox (application server for jruby based on jboss) or the jruby mailing list there was one guy who worked for a large gaming studio (I think it was one of sony's gaming divisions) who use jruby and torquebox for the network backend[1] of their AAA games. [1] Gamer / game analytics, logins etc. Basically APIs that their games call over the network for the more "social / analytics" stuff. Personally I have used jruby in the past for implementations of services where we needed to use java libraries.

beat 13y ago

The only time I've ever used Jython is for administrating Websphere. And nothing says bloated overpriced overcomplicated time-wasting enterprise nightmare like Websphere. Seriously, businesses will spend the equivalent of ten programmers' salaries on Websphere licenses, but they'd never consider hiring ten programmers. It's the poster child of corporate timidity in risk aversion drag. But I digress.

Xylakant 13y ago

I know of a couple of installations that use jruby in production. It's often coupled with some sort of java service in the backend, so sure, it's used in production. It's also stable, even though it tends to lag a little behind cruby in some features. The 2.0.0 feature set is not yet implemented fully.

beat 13y ago
I'm using JRuby in the code I'm developing for my startup, in order to access Java libs I need. The biggest issue has been that it doesn't support Ruby 2.0 yet, which is merely aesthetic at this point for me. JRuby hasn't given me any grief since I got it going.

riffraff 13y ago

jython used to be popular many years ago when it was the most decent language to add scripting to a java app. I don't _think_ it's very popular as a scripting language for new java stuff, and it still only supports python 2.5 which is 8 years old.

rst 13y ago

Constant Contact uses Rails on jruby pretty extensively, because of improved performance and JVM integration. There was also a talk at Boston's Wicked Good Ruby conference of a case study of a large Struts 2 app getting extended in Rails on JRuby. (I asked about Grails as an alternative; not only was Groovy more painful than Ruby to work in, but Grails itself, in the speaker's experience, was more difficult to integrate into an existing application stack. Which is something the Grails folks might want to look into, if it's correct...)