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I hate SUVs. The disadvantages of a sedan in conjunction with the disadvantages of an off-road. SUVs in Spain are used by mothers when they go to school to pi

I hate SUVs. The disadvantages of a sedan in conjunction with the disadvantages of an off-road. SUVs in Spain are used by mothers when they go to school to pick up their kids. Useless vehicles. i.e. BMW X5 vs Lada Niva: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q8jt-Y75Kc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q8jt-Y75Kc

Spittie 13y ago
>SUVs in Spain are used by mothers when they go to school to pick up their kids. You're already lucky. My experience is that many SUV owner just use them to go alone to work in city's center. I'm not against SUVs (or big cars, in general), they're just overkill for many people that still buy them for the "cool" factor.
- professorTuring 13y ago
  > I'm not against SUVs (or big cars, in general), they're just overkill for many people that still buy them for the "cool" factor. That's exactly my point. You can add to my point that in Spain also, it has to be diesel (even if you are going to do only around 1000 miles a year).
drivingmissm 13y ago
The government created the SUV market by enforcing dangerous CAFE standards on regular autos. (SUVs were considered trucks and exempt). CAFE kills many people every year because it has reduced car weight in the name of fuel economy. Since you can't buy a safe big sedan for your family, you buy an SUV instead.
- projct 13y ago
  Source?
- GFischer 13y ago
  I believe that (enforcing fuel efficiency equals more deaths) to be a myth. There's little correlation between fuel efficiency and safety. SUVs ARE safer in front crashes.. but they're otherwise no safer than a car of equal price, which are usually way more fuel efficient (US cars in general are not fuel efficient at all). It is also true that the least safe cars are all small cars, but that's more correlated with price than with size - an Audi A4 is considered a midsize car by US standards, yet it's one of the safest cars around. Sources: http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4204.pdf http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4204.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_sport_utility_vehicles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_sport_utility_vehi... www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2013/05/suvs-are-safer-than-cars-in-front-crashes-but-there-is-more-to-the-story/index.htm Also, I work for an insurance company and hear lots of myths.
rayiner 13y ago
The model X is more appropriately called a cross-over, and those are very useful cars. They're much smaller and easier to park in the city than a mini-van, but have more room than a sedan. The higher seating position is also great for visibility and shleping stuff in and out of the car without bending down. I'm curious. Do you have kids? A few years ago I might have said the same thing as you, but with a car seat and pee-diapers in the back seat,[1] I'm really feeling the need for more room than I have in my 3-series. [1] That in addition to being stuck in suburban Philadelphia hell.

Spittie 13y ago

>SUVs in Spain are used by mothers when they go to school to pick up their kids. You're already lucky. My experience is that many SUV owner just use them to go alone to work in city's center. I'm not against SUVs (or big cars, in general), they're just overkill for many people that still buy them for the "cool" factor.

professorTuring 13y ago
> I'm not against SUVs (or big cars, in general), they're just overkill for many people that still buy them for the "cool" factor. That's exactly my point. You can add to my point that in Spain also, it has to be diesel (even if you are going to do only around 1000 miles a year).

drivingmissm 13y ago

The government created the SUV market by enforcing dangerous CAFE standards on regular autos. (SUVs were considered trucks and exempt). CAFE kills many people every year because it has reduced car weight in the name of fuel economy. Since you can't buy a safe big sedan for your family, you buy an SUV instead.

projct 13y ago
Source?
GFischer 13y ago
I believe that (enforcing fuel efficiency equals more deaths) to be a myth. There's little correlation between fuel efficiency and safety. SUVs ARE safer in front crashes.. but they're otherwise no safer than a car of equal price, which are usually way more fuel efficient (US cars in general are not fuel efficient at all). It is also true that the least safe cars are all small cars, but that's more correlated with price than with size - an Audi A4 is considered a midsize car by US standards, yet it's one of the safest cars around. Sources: http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4204.pdf http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4204.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_sport_utility_vehicles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_sport_utility_vehi... www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2013/05/suvs-are-safer-than-cars-in-front-crashes-but-there-is-more-to-the-story/index.htm Also, I work for an insurance company and hear lots of myths.

rayiner 13y ago

The model X is more appropriately called a cross-over, and those are very useful cars. They're much smaller and easier to park in the city than a mini-van, but have more room than a sedan. The higher seating position is also great for visibility and shleping stuff in and out of the car without bending down. I'm curious. Do you have kids? A few years ago I might have said the same thing as you, but with a car seat and pee-diapers in the back seat,[1] I'm really feeling the need for more room than I have in my 3-series. [1] That in addition to being stuck in suburban Philadelphia hell.