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This article lacks any shred of analytics. There isn't an example given where someone pays more under ACA then they would have under private. It's all fluff wit

by jnevill 13y ago

This article lacks any shred of analytics. There isn't an example given where someone pays more under ACA then they would have under private. It's all fluff with no substance. It's a shame too, because there are probably some very interesting numbers to come out of this change over to ACA. The addition of saying the website is slow because the powers-that-be are trying to hide that ACA causes people to pay more is ridiculous. The website is slow because it was built by the federal government. They are inept at this sort of thing. To say it's because folks are trying to hide a "truth" turns the whole thing into a conspiracy theory.

hga 13y ago
"There isn't an example given where someone pays more under ACA then they would have under private." I would assume the article didn't bother because it has been so well established by now. E.g. see it tangentially in the infamous "Of course, I want people to have health care," Vinson said. "I just didn't realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally." I cite elsewhere in this discussion http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24248486/obamacares-winners-and-losers-bay-area http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24248486/obamacar...
- NateDad 13y ago
  There have been a very small handful of people who have claimed (without much supporting evidence) that they would pay more. There has been pretty much zero evidence given that people who have insurance through their employer will see any changes. Saying "because it's so well established" 14 days after the website opened, when most people can't even get onto the site, and a vast majority of people aren't even trying... is BS.
  - hga 13y ago
    Your latter point is incorrect because we're hearing this from people who have insurance and are finding their policies canceled or drastically more expensive. I don't know if it was part of the plan, but rather obviously that should happen before or soon after the website opens, so they'll know they have to go to it, or should go to see if they can get a better deal. You're claiming it's "a very small handful" simply tells me your normal sources of information aren't seriously covering this problem.
    - NateDad 13y ago
      I have yet to see a link (credible or not) to statistics of how many people's insurances are getting cancelled and/or going up due to the ACA. I see a lot of people claiming this is happening without any substantiation. As a totally insignificant data point, my company told us that our insurance was staying the same price this year, and we only have 166 people in the US, so it's not like we're some huge corporation that has a ton of clout to keep our costs down.

by jnevill 13y ago

hga 13y ago

"There isn't an example given where someone pays more under ACA then they would have under private." I would assume the article didn't bother because it has been so well established by now. E.g. see it tangentially in the infamous "Of course, I want people to have health care," Vinson said. "I just didn't realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally." I cite elsewhere in this discussion http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24248486/obamacares-winners-and-losers-bay-area http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24248486/obamacar...

NateDad 13y ago
There have been a very small handful of people who have claimed (without much supporting evidence) that they would pay more. There has been pretty much zero evidence given that people who have insurance through their employer will see any changes. Saying "because it's so well established" 14 days after the website opened, when most people can't even get onto the site, and a vast majority of people aren't even trying... is BS.
- hga 13y ago
  Your latter point is incorrect because we're hearing this from people who have insurance and are finding their policies canceled or drastically more expensive. I don't know if it was part of the plan, but rather obviously that should happen before or soon after the website opens, so they'll know they have to go to it, or should go to see if they can get a better deal. You're claiming it's "a very small handful" simply tells me your normal sources of information aren't seriously covering this problem.
  - NateDad 13y ago
    I have yet to see a link (credible or not) to statistics of how many people's insurances are getting cancelled and/or going up due to the ACA. I see a lot of people claiming this is happening without any substantiation. As a totally insignificant data point, my company told us that our insurance was staying the same price this year, and we only have 166 people in the US, so it's not like we're some huge corporation that has a ton of clout to keep our costs down.