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Authors, poets replace reporters at an Israeli newspaper for one day

61 points by sweetdreams 17y ago

sp332 17y ago
Has anyone got a link to any of the cited articles? I haven't had luck Googling their English website haaretz.com or the Hebrew website haaretz.co.il .
- zxcvbnm 17y ago
  http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/arch/ArchSearchResults.jhtml?txt=&txt1=&txt2=&txt3=&section=all&T3hide=&startIndex=1&dateFrom=20090610&dateTo=20090610&operat1=&operat2=&operat3= http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/arch/ArchSearchResults... haaretz search results for june 10th (hebrew only). google phrases for the full stories.
- zxcvbnm 17y ago
  love in the cancer ward (english) - http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1091702.html http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1091702.html
- deleted 17y ago
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- nir 17y ago
  I don't know if any of this was translated to English, the Hebrew articles are here: http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1091226.html http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1091226.html It was done as part of "Book Week", which is celebrated every year around this time in Israel. They got some of Israel's leading writers like David Grossman and Etgar Keret to take part and some of the stories are excellent. My favorite touch was the weather report, which contains a poem for summer written by one of Israel's best known poets, Roni Somek. The weather reports talks of hot & humid early summer weather, and he writes (roughly translated): Summer is the least sharp pencil of the seasons' box I write with it a love letter to the tailor who cut off the women's blouses and skirts a few inches of winter. This year too, perhaps it will be hot in the valleys (It's a lot better in the original form ;)) http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1091757.html http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1091757.html
  - rms 17y ago
    Any idea what the paper, English edition of Haaretz had today if not translations of these articles?
    - nir 17y ago
      The authors didn't really write the whole newspaper, just some magazine-style reports and some of regular features - weather report, TV critic, letters to the editor (by another poet) etc. News, sports etc items were still there, written by the regular reporters. (BTW, in general, Haaretz in English is quite different and better quality than the Hebrew version. This is perhaps why Haaretz is held in much higher regard outside Israel.)
      - rms 17y ago
        What makes the English Haaretz better? I don't speak Hebrew but I remember comparing the (paper) English and Hebrew editions of Haaretz and not noticing much difference. I can't specifically recall looking past the front page though. My tour guide in Israel was a former Haaretz English translator and he nitpicked several things in my English copy, saying their translators had gotten sloppy since he left.
        nir 17y ago
        In the Hebrew version, every other article contains spelling mistakes and glaring errors - and that's before the simply poor, Techcrunch-like level of reporting standards. Due to financial issues and internal power struggles, Haaretz lost many of its experienced writers and editors in the last decade and is unable to attract new talent when it pays sub-minimum wage salaries. (This is true for most of Israeli media, btw, it's just that Haaretz is for some reason held at higher regard by outsiders) All this seems to affect the English version less, probably because it contains a small number of editors/writers relative to the Hebrew one, and they tend to have learned their craft in the US/UK, which still have far better journalism standards than most of the world.
  - krav 17y ago
edw519 17y ago
Kinda reminds me of the time Robert Frost was a technical writer for a day :-) The Thread Not Traversed TWO threads diverged in a yellow stack, And sorry I could not traverse so And be one parser, long I stood And looped through one as long as I could To where it spawned in the overflow; Then invoked the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the faster stats, Because it was hashed and wanted wear; Though as for that the data there Had run them into third normal form, And both that session equally lay In objects no instance had trodden class. Oh, I kept the version for another day! Yet knowing how code leads on to code, I doubted if I should ever unit test. I shall be documenting this with a sigh Somewhere many transactions hence: Two threads diverged in a stack, and I— I took the one less traversed by, And that has caused the site to fly.
TrevorJ 17y ago
I think it is funny that they tampered with all the serious news stories but dared not replace the sports section.
- absconditus 17y ago
  My favorite sports writer: http://thebivouac.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/the-kentucky-derby-is-decadent-and-depraved/ http://thebivouac.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/the-kentucky-derb...
- anamax 17y ago
  Sports and society are the two sections where you have to get the facts right most of the time.
quizbiz 17y ago
Google Translator (Hebrew > English) of the articles: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.co.il%2Fhasite%2Fspages%2F1091226.html&sl=iw&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haa...

61 points by sweetdreams 17y ago

sp332 17y ago

Has anyone got a link to any of the cited articles? I haven't had luck Googling their English website haaretz.com or the Hebrew website haaretz.co.il .

zxcvbnm 17y ago
http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/arch/ArchSearchResults.jhtml?txt=&txt1=&txt2=&txt3=&section=all&T3hide=&startIndex=1&dateFrom=20090610&dateTo=20090610&operat1=&operat2=&operat3= http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/arch/ArchSearchResults... haaretz search results for june 10th (hebrew only). google phrases for the full stories.
zxcvbnm 17y ago
love in the cancer ward (english) - http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1091702.html http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1091702.html
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nir 17y ago
I don't know if any of this was translated to English, the Hebrew articles are here: http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1091226.html http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1091226.html It was done as part of "Book Week", which is celebrated every year around this time in Israel. They got some of Israel's leading writers like David Grossman and Etgar Keret to take part and some of the stories are excellent. My favorite touch was the weather report, which contains a poem for summer written by one of Israel's best known poets, Roni Somek. The weather reports talks of hot & humid early summer weather, and he writes (roughly translated): Summer is the least sharp pencil of the seasons' box I write with it a love letter to the tailor who cut off the women's blouses and skirts a few inches of winter. This year too, perhaps it will be hot in the valleys (It's a lot better in the original form ;)) http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1091757.html http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1091757.html
- rms 17y ago
  Any idea what the paper, English edition of Haaretz had today if not translations of these articles?
  - nir 17y ago
    The authors didn't really write the whole newspaper, just some magazine-style reports and some of regular features - weather report, TV critic, letters to the editor (by another poet) etc. News, sports etc items were still there, written by the regular reporters. (BTW, in general, Haaretz in English is quite different and better quality than the Hebrew version. This is perhaps why Haaretz is held in much higher regard outside Israel.)
    - rms 17y ago
      What makes the English Haaretz better? I don't speak Hebrew but I remember comparing the (paper) English and Hebrew editions of Haaretz and not noticing much difference. I can't specifically recall looking past the front page though. My tour guide in Israel was a former Haaretz English translator and he nitpicked several things in my English copy, saying their translators had gotten sloppy since he left.
      - nir 17y ago
        In the Hebrew version, every other article contains spelling mistakes and glaring errors - and that's before the simply poor, Techcrunch-like level of reporting standards. Due to financial issues and internal power struggles, Haaretz lost many of its experienced writers and editors in the last decade and is unable to attract new talent when it pays sub-minimum wage salaries. (This is true for most of Israeli media, btw, it's just that Haaretz is for some reason held at higher regard by outsiders) All this seems to affect the English version less, probably because it contains a small number of editors/writers relative to the Hebrew one, and they tend to have learned their craft in the US/UK, which still have far better journalism standards than most of the world.
- krav 17y ago

edw519 17y ago

Kinda reminds me of the time Robert Frost was a technical writer for a day :-) The Thread Not Traversed TWO threads diverged in a yellow stack, And sorry I could not traverse so And be one parser, long I stood And looped through one as long as I could To where it spawned in the overflow; Then invoked the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the faster stats, Because it was hashed and wanted wear; Though as for that the data there Had run them into third normal form, And both that session equally lay In objects no instance had trodden class. Oh, I kept the version for another day! Yet knowing how code leads on to code, I doubted if I should ever unit test. I shall be documenting this with a sigh Somewhere many transactions hence: Two threads diverged in a stack, and I— I took the one less traversed by, And that has caused the site to fly.

TrevorJ 17y ago

I think it is funny that they tampered with all the serious news stories but dared not replace the sports section.

absconditus 17y ago
My favorite sports writer: http://thebivouac.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/the-kentucky-derby-is-decadent-and-depraved/ http://thebivouac.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/the-kentucky-derb...
anamax 17y ago
Sports and society are the two sections where you have to get the facts right most of the time.

quizbiz 17y ago

Google Translator (Hebrew > English) of the articles: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.co.il%2Fhasite%2Fspages%2F1091226.html&sl=iw&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haa...