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I can totally see what you are saying. I think the part of this post that really jumped out at me was "male space." Maybe I misinterpreted, but when I read th
by haberman 13y ago
I can totally see what you are saying.
I think the part of this post that really jumped out at me was "male space." Maybe I misinterpreted, but when I read that it came off to me as a club where there are insiders and outsiders.
If he had left out the "male space" part, I would have probably assumed he meant something more like what you were saying.
- Karunamon 13y agoYeah, that admittedly colors the whole thing a very ugly shade (ed: and then the rest of his Facebook behavior too.. ick! classy guy, that one) - but then again, politically-incorrect banter is one of the hallmarks of a "male space". Can you have one without the other? No topics are off limits. The other person's religion, politics, body attributes, whatever. It's all in good fun.
- haberman 13y agoI think it comes down to, which is worth more? Keeping that acerbic culture or being more inviting to women? Don't get me wrong, I totally understand the fun of reading/writing completely inappropriate ranting (well sometimes -- I'm a bit uncomfortable with "The other person's religion, politics, body attributes, whatever. It's all in good fun."). On the other hand, being more inviting has advantages both selfish (more women around, good for both social reasons and for their talent) and moral (giving opportunity to women, and anyone who isn't into caustic banter, for that matter). If you love programming, imagine being deprived of it because you felt unwelcome in programming circles. I think it's kind of wrong for those of us in places of leadership to deny opportunity to people for the benefit of our fun.