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Who do you think is more likely to be incompetent, the board of directors of McDonald's or 10 employees chosen at random throughout the entire organization?

LekkoscPiwa 13y ago
/sarcasm/ Come on! All people are equal! /sarcasm/
- gnarbarian 13y ago
  I like you. You seem to get it. It's interesting how quickly people forget/ignore what life was like in Warsaw pact countries. Then when presented with one as an example they resort to "they practiced the wrong kind of Socialism" or "it failed because they did or didn't do X." When I ask my friends who lived there during that period they unanimously proclaim how much better life is now and how the standard of living has dramatically improved. Many more people can afford cars and there is incentive to work hard.
bjourne 13y ago
I believe it would be a wash. Who do you think is more likely to be incompetent, all McDonald's 450k employees or 10 board of directors?
- gnarbarian 13y ago
  You must not know many typical mcdonalds employees. How many do you think are college educated (let alone educated in the right areas) or even possess a GED? Compared to http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/board.asp?ticker=MCD http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/boa... Sure education isn't everything. The average mcds employee is a good person trying to earn an honest living fit to have a beer with but probably not the best source of sound investment advice. Put to a vote they would all vote to raise their wages to 15/hr and the vast majority would be unemployed in 6 months because I'd be able to get a better burger somewhere else for less money.
  - bjourne 13y ago
    The argument you are making is equivalent to arguing that dictatorship is better than democracy because regular people are too stupid to decide for themselves.
    - gnarbarian 13y ago
      No... If I own something I should get to decide how I use it. To deny me that would be to deny me my private property. Owners have rights to their property. If the employees at my business owned voting stock, that would be different and a vote would be appropriate. Lets use the fishing boat analogy. So a fisherman fishes for 10 years saving his pennies and investing and builds a fishing boat with his bare hands. He (The captain) then hires 3 hands to help him run the fishing boat. If everything simply came down to a vote there would be no incentive for the captain to save for 10 years and build a boat. If the 4 fishermen had all saved their money together, and pooled their resources to build the boat equally, then they could have equal say in how the fishing operation is run.
      - bjourne 13y ago
        Fine, but that is not relevant to the question about who would provide the most incompetent leadership.

LekkoscPiwa 13y ago

/sarcasm/ Come on! All people are equal! /sarcasm/

gnarbarian 13y ago
I like you. You seem to get it. It's interesting how quickly people forget/ignore what life was like in Warsaw pact countries. Then when presented with one as an example they resort to "they practiced the wrong kind of Socialism" or "it failed because they did or didn't do X." When I ask my friends who lived there during that period they unanimously proclaim how much better life is now and how the standard of living has dramatically improved. Many more people can afford cars and there is incentive to work hard.

bjourne 13y ago

I believe it would be a wash. Who do you think is more likely to be incompetent, all McDonald's 450k employees or 10 board of directors?

gnarbarian 13y ago
You must not know many typical mcdonalds employees. How many do you think are college educated (let alone educated in the right areas) or even possess a GED? Compared to http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/board.asp?ticker=MCD http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/boa... Sure education isn't everything. The average mcds employee is a good person trying to earn an honest living fit to have a beer with but probably not the best source of sound investment advice. Put to a vote they would all vote to raise their wages to 15/hr and the vast majority would be unemployed in 6 months because I'd be able to get a better burger somewhere else for less money.
- bjourne 13y ago
  The argument you are making is equivalent to arguing that dictatorship is better than democracy because regular people are too stupid to decide for themselves.
  - gnarbarian 13y ago
    No... If I own something I should get to decide how I use it. To deny me that would be to deny me my private property. Owners have rights to their property. If the employees at my business owned voting stock, that would be different and a vote would be appropriate. Lets use the fishing boat analogy. So a fisherman fishes for 10 years saving his pennies and investing and builds a fishing boat with his bare hands. He (The captain) then hires 3 hands to help him run the fishing boat. If everything simply came down to a vote there would be no incentive for the captain to save for 10 years and build a boat. If the 4 fishermen had all saved their money together, and pooled their resources to build the boat equally, then they could have equal say in how the fishing operation is run.
    - bjourne 13y ago
      Fine, but that is not relevant to the question about who would provide the most incompetent leadership.