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I'm not trolling at all, I'm serious and I don't understand how all of you can deny what I'm saying. I'm not proposing a theory I'm just laying out verifiable f

I'm not trolling at all, I'm serious and I don't understand how all of you can deny what I'm saying. I'm not proposing a theory I'm just laying out verifiable facts. First of all, there exist people with similar genetics, like twins, but there aren't two people exactly identical, biologically speaking. We call people individuals because everyone is unique. Take actors Shawn Ashmore and Aaron Ashmore: the former is 1.83m the twin is 1.80m. Why can you accept that kind of difference in height but you can't accept that kind of difference (or higher) in any other trait? Like intelligence. The last point you make is rather moot. There's no doubt nutrition impacts weight as well as general development in a living being, but given that changes spawned by biological processes are immutable and directly related to one's genetic makeup (think immune system or metabolism) those too have to be put on the same level as genetic mutations.

kgarten 13y ago
If you know scientific process you should know that there are no verifiable facts. We can just be a little less "wrong" than the people before us ;) No, I don't deny the influence of genetics on intelligence and the like, however I don't believe that it outweighs teaching. (I had the experience when our math class was way advanced compared and our A-level was easy due to the teaching methods of a very talented and engaged math teacher ...). There are tons of other examples, if you give an average person with average IQ the breathing room and spark their interest they can become an expert in any field (that's what I believe ...). They might not become a Goedel or Turing, yet that's something else ... Do you say that it's in our genes if we understand a particular subject (e.g. algebra, differential equations ...) or not? If you don't receive any formal training in anything or get the wrong teaching, sorry than genetics won't help you. The type of training and teaching are more important than your genetics when it comes to contributions to the sciences (assuming no disabilities). I've seen this over and over ... at elementary school, high school and university. There are studies that show that the IQ of a child for example is to 1/4 determined by their family environment and deteriorates rapidly with social risk factors. e.g. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8624.1993.tb02896.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8624.1993.... The problem is that intelligence is a bit more complicated than you want it to be ;) (and maybe that your genes are not made out to understand what I'm trying to say :D

kgarten 13y ago

If you know scientific process you should know that there are no verifiable facts. We can just be a little less "wrong" than the people before us ;) No, I don't deny the influence of genetics on intelligence and the like, however I don't believe that it outweighs teaching. (I had the experience when our math class was way advanced compared and our A-level was easy due to the teaching methods of a very talented and engaged math teacher ...). There are tons of other examples, if you give an average person with average IQ the breathing room and spark their interest they can become an expert in any field (that's what I believe ...). They might not become a Goedel or Turing, yet that's something else ... Do you say that it's in our genes if we understand a particular subject (e.g. algebra, differential equations ...) or not? If you don't receive any formal training in anything or get the wrong teaching, sorry than genetics won't help you. The type of training and teaching are more important than your genetics when it comes to contributions to the sciences (assuming no disabilities). I've seen this over and over ... at elementary school, high school and university. There are studies that show that the IQ of a child for example is to 1/4 determined by their family environment and deteriorates rapidly with social risk factors. e.g. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8624.1993.tb02896.x/abstract http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8624.1993.... The problem is that intelligence is a bit more complicated than you want it to be ;) (and maybe that your genes are not made out to understand what I'm trying to say :D