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I suspect you would probably make the same argument about being a Tor endpoint. Given that Tor has been available for a while, are there examples of maintainer

by azanar 17y ago

I suspect you would probably make the same argument about being a Tor endpoint. Given that Tor has been available for a while, are there examples of maintainers of Tor end nodes being held accountable for the traffic they pass on behalf of others? This seems bred the same philosophy as holding an ISP accountable for the traffic of its customers, or holding the administrator of 4chan accountable for what is posted on there. It seems tenuous. Maybe I'm missing something. How many jurisdictions are there now where an unknowing facilitator can be held accountable for the criminal acts of those he is facilitating? Either way, I'm not fond of this philosophy of scaring everyone into the clear simply to avoid gruesome labeling.

swombat 17y ago
There was an example of one guy having the police come to his house and seize his computers, before eventually returning them. Needless to say, he was shit-scared that his neighbours would find out that he was suspected of child pornography (though of course he was not guilty). His account was posted here some 6 months ago or so. I think it's a matter of numbers, though. If TOR (or equivalent) was as popular as BT, even the police would realise it is pointless.
- sdfx 17y ago
  This is the post you are talking about: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=526140 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=526140
- mhb 17y ago
  What? Like drugs? It doesn't become pointless. It merely becomes a tool which can be selectively enforced against whomever those enforcing the rules don't happen to like.
zouhair 17y ago
My IP have been banned from Wikipedia when I made a Tor node to help, seems someone used Tor to vandalize a lot of articles and my IP got used for access. I had to ask my ISP to change my IP, it was easier this way than asking some admins at Wikipedia, they were not very helpful.

by azanar 17y ago

swombat 17y ago

There was an example of one guy having the police come to his house and seize his computers, before eventually returning them. Needless to say, he was shit-scared that his neighbours would find out that he was suspected of child pornography (though of course he was not guilty). His account was posted here some 6 months ago or so. I think it's a matter of numbers, though. If TOR (or equivalent) was as popular as BT, even the police would realise it is pointless.

sdfx 17y ago
This is the post you are talking about: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=526140 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=526140
mhb 17y ago
What? Like drugs? It doesn't become pointless. It merely becomes a tool which can be selectively enforced against whomever those enforcing the rules don't happen to like.

zouhair 17y ago

My IP have been banned from Wikipedia when I made a Tor node to help, seems someone used Tor to vandalize a lot of articles and my IP got used for access. I had to ask my ISP to change my IP, it was easier this way than asking some admins at Wikipedia, they were not very helpful.