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It would be fun to get a feel for where the weekend HN crowd sits on the Meyers-Briggs scale, and the perhaps more relevant Lipson-Shiu test: http://www.andrew

It would be fun to get a feel for where the weekend HN crowd sits on the Meyers-Briggs scale, and the perhaps more relevant Lipson-Shiu test: http://www.andrewlipson.com/lstest.html http://www.andrewlipson.com/lstest.html Added: I am an ILIE

ColinWright 13y ago
I'd be fascinated to see how people do on the Lipson-Shiu test, but previous attempts to get people to engage have failed miserably. I don't think people here get the point. Personally, I'm usually a Grand Vizier (ILIE). (Oh crap - just took it again and got ILIG)
- willvarfar 13y ago
  Yes I first found it from one of your previous posts in fact. What is interesting to me is how you can create these tests in general. You ought to make a post explaining how to invent a test. Or a website to do it, like a meme generator. That'd get more interest here perhaps.
  - ColinWright 13y ago
    It's not mine, it's by Andrew Lipson and Daniel Shiu. In conversation with Andrew he said that he and Daniel put the test together in one evening, but had been chatting about it for a few weeks. And it's very much in Andrew's style - the kind of thing he does well. I have no further insights to offer.
- nakkiel 13y ago
  SCUG here.
- Lrigikithumer 13y ago
  ICUG here, I've got no idea how to interpret that.
  - ColinWright 13y ago
    ICUG (Inventor) The ICUG is given to solitude and shoe staring. He or she loves little puzzles and is often a good source of off-the-wall, innovative ideas. Best left to their own devices with only occasional steering (example: Leonardo da Vinci) Seems pretty clear to me. But don't forget to read the explanation at the top of the page - this has to be interpreted in context.
hitchhiker999 13y ago
ICUG - that's fn team work.
devonbarrett 13y ago
Meyers-Briggs: INTJ Lipson-Shiu: ICUE
- riffraff 13y ago
  another ICUE
oblique63 13y ago
I too would be very curious about HN's MBTI stats. As an INTP, I often feel like a straight up minority in here sometimes... I also scored as an ICUG on that other test, which seems to fit my INTP description, lol.
- super-serial 13y ago
  INTP is actually the most common type on HN (or at least it used to be): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=204240 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=204240 I'm also an INTP, but apparently more evil: ICIE on Lipson-Shiu.
  - oblique63 13y ago
    Interesting. Unfortunately that poll was taken well before I even joined up, cause it definitely feels like it has a strong ISTJ/INTJ slant now somehow (ignoring possible mistyping and all that)...
arh68 13y ago
What a hilarious test. I'm only surprised there weren't more questions. 10 questions, 16 types?? I came up ICUE, then ICIE, then ILIE (I don't lie, I omit the truth!). Most Meyers Briggs tests come up INTP, if not INTJ or INFJ for me.
- Osmium 13y ago
  There are better tests out there. The one I did had 200 questions. I can't speak for their usefulness though.
Pitarou 13y ago
The perenially-popular Myers-Briggs personality inventory is utterly bogus. If Myers-Briggs classified body types, it would be something like this: "We're going to classify you in four different ways: height, skin-color, adiposity, and luminance. So, for example, I'm a TPWR (tall, plump, white, rainbow), but my colleague here is a SLBC (short, lithe, black, starlight). We're going to classify you with this questionnaire, but if you're unhappy with the results you get at the end please tell us and we'll change it."
- Pitarou 13y ago
  Oh. I've actually looked at the Lipson-Shiu Test now. Looks like the joke was on me! :0)
- oblique63 13y ago
  Except that MBTI is only a superficial shorthand for the more complex Jungian cognitive function theory[1], which is more nuanced and has functions interacting in more complex ways than just the 4 dimensions represented by the MBTI system. More interestingly, is that these cognitive functions are actually starting to have some connections to neurological phenomena[2]. So while on the superficial level MBTI is kind of just a bunch of sugar coating, it actually is founded in more well-reasoned psychology. It could still be highly inaccurate, but it is unusually consistent (once you accept that the tests for it are generally terrible). [1] Here are some good resources on their basic definitions: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/213-MBTI-Descriptions-of-cognitive-functions-from-various-sources http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/213-MBTI-De... http://personalityjunkie.com/functions-ni-ti-fi-si-ne-te-fe-se/ http://personalityjunkie.com/functions-ni-ti-fi-si-ne-te-fe-... [2] This talk goes into some detail about how specific brain patterns seem to correlate with the Jungian cognitive functions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGfhQTbcqmA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGfhQTbcqmA
  - Pitarou 13y ago
    I was talking about the test, not Jungian psychology. Regardless of how accurate Jung's musings turned out to be, any test that insists on classifying people as either an introvert or an extrovert flies in the face of the best empirical evidence. What really bugs me is that there are recruiters who use this test as part of their hiring process. (Not in the US.) What a waste.
Pitarou 13y ago
ILUE Keep a close eye on these guys. They will follow instructions to the letter and use all their power and ingenuity to go against the spirit of what was intended. Omigod. That's so me. These guys really know their stuff! (I'm such a sucker for Barnum statements.)
Pitarou 13y ago
Has anyone tried the Voight-Kampff test?

ColinWright 13y ago

I'd be fascinated to see how people do on the Lipson-Shiu test, but previous attempts to get people to engage have failed miserably. I don't think people here get the point. Personally, I'm usually a Grand Vizier (ILIE). (Oh crap - just took it again and got ILIG)

willvarfar 13y ago
Yes I first found it from one of your previous posts in fact. What is interesting to me is how you can create these tests in general. You ought to make a post explaining how to invent a test. Or a website to do it, like a meme generator. That'd get more interest here perhaps.
- ColinWright 13y ago
  It's not mine, it's by Andrew Lipson and Daniel Shiu. In conversation with Andrew he said that he and Daniel put the test together in one evening, but had been chatting about it for a few weeks. And it's very much in Andrew's style - the kind of thing he does well. I have no further insights to offer.
nakkiel 13y ago
SCUG here.
Lrigikithumer 13y ago
ICUG here, I've got no idea how to interpret that.
- ColinWright 13y ago
  ICUG (Inventor) The ICUG is given to solitude and shoe staring. He or she loves little puzzles and is often a good source of off-the-wall, innovative ideas. Best left to their own devices with only occasional steering (example: Leonardo da Vinci) Seems pretty clear to me. But don't forget to read the explanation at the top of the page - this has to be interpreted in context.

hitchhiker999 13y ago

ICUG - that's fn team work.

devonbarrett 13y ago

Meyers-Briggs: INTJ Lipson-Shiu: ICUE

riffraff 13y ago
another ICUE

oblique63 13y ago

I too would be very curious about HN's MBTI stats. As an INTP, I often feel like a straight up minority in here sometimes... I also scored as an ICUG on that other test, which seems to fit my INTP description, lol.

super-serial 13y ago
INTP is actually the most common type on HN (or at least it used to be): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=204240 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=204240 I'm also an INTP, but apparently more evil: ICIE on Lipson-Shiu.
- oblique63 13y ago
  Interesting. Unfortunately that poll was taken well before I even joined up, cause it definitely feels like it has a strong ISTJ/INTJ slant now somehow (ignoring possible mistyping and all that)...

arh68 13y ago

What a hilarious test. I'm only surprised there weren't more questions. 10 questions, 16 types?? I came up ICUE, then ICIE, then ILIE (I don't lie, I omit the truth!). Most Meyers Briggs tests come up INTP, if not INTJ or INFJ for me.

Osmium 13y ago
There are better tests out there. The one I did had 200 questions. I can't speak for their usefulness though.

Pitarou 13y ago

The perenially-popular Myers-Briggs personality inventory is utterly bogus. If Myers-Briggs classified body types, it would be something like this: "We're going to classify you in four different ways: height, skin-color, adiposity, and luminance. So, for example, I'm a TPWR (tall, plump, white, rainbow), but my colleague here is a SLBC (short, lithe, black, starlight). We're going to classify you with this questionnaire, but if you're unhappy with the results you get at the end please tell us and we'll change it."

Pitarou 13y ago
Oh. I've actually looked at the Lipson-Shiu Test now. Looks like the joke was on me! :0)
oblique63 13y ago
Except that MBTI is only a superficial shorthand for the more complex Jungian cognitive function theory[1], which is more nuanced and has functions interacting in more complex ways than just the 4 dimensions represented by the MBTI system. More interestingly, is that these cognitive functions are actually starting to have some connections to neurological phenomena[2]. So while on the superficial level MBTI is kind of just a bunch of sugar coating, it actually is founded in more well-reasoned psychology. It could still be highly inaccurate, but it is unusually consistent (once you accept that the tests for it are generally terrible). [1] Here are some good resources on their basic definitions: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/213-MBTI-Descriptions-of-cognitive-functions-from-various-sources http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/213-MBTI-De... http://personalityjunkie.com/functions-ni-ti-fi-si-ne-te-fe-se/ http://personalityjunkie.com/functions-ni-ti-fi-si-ne-te-fe-... [2] This talk goes into some detail about how specific brain patterns seem to correlate with the Jungian cognitive functions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGfhQTbcqmA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGfhQTbcqmA
- Pitarou 13y ago
  I was talking about the test, not Jungian psychology. Regardless of how accurate Jung's musings turned out to be, any test that insists on classifying people as either an introvert or an extrovert flies in the face of the best empirical evidence. What really bugs me is that there are recruiters who use this test as part of their hiring process. (Not in the US.) What a waste.

Pitarou 13y ago

ILUE Keep a close eye on these guys. They will follow instructions to the letter and use all their power and ingenuity to go against the spirit of what was intended. Omigod. That's so me. These guys really know their stuff! (I'm such a sucker for Barnum statements.)

Pitarou 13y ago

Has anyone tried the Voight-Kampff test?