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When was the last time you actually installed Ubuntu? It mostly installs itself with little to no input from the user. >I haven't tried to set up a gaming rig

When was the last time you actually installed Ubuntu? It mostly installs itself with little to no input from the user. >I haven't tried to set up a gaming rig with Linux, but I imagine it will be like trying to play games on DOS 3.0 back in the 90s. Install Steam, install game, play game. >it's easier to just buy an iMac and boot into Windows to play games. As someone who actually does dual-boot a Mac using Bootcamp for gaming purposes, and who also games on Linux, the former was far more difficult to set up (installing Windows on a MBP from a USB stick is a fool's errand). In short, you simply don't appear to know what you're talking about. The trouble with gaming on Linux is selection, not anything intrinsic to Linux itself.

OmleteDuFromage 13y ago
Well my attempt at running Ubuntu 12.04 convinced me that Ubuntu is Satan: - Both network and wireless drivers weren't working, so I had to go to a different machine and dig up some some sources from some obscure blog, copy them to a pen drive, go back, compile and install. - What's that, you want to update anything? Well fuck you, I'll rollback the network drivers you installed. - What's that, you're trying to watch more than 5 youtube videos in a row? Fuck you, Compiz has crashed! - While you were sleeping last night, I threw away all the stuff that you had on your desktop. Also, you can't right click on it anymore. What's that, did you right click more than 5 times in anger? Fuck you, Unity has crashed! - You're trying to search the web for solutions to all these crashes? Fuck you, Compiz has crashed! Also, your mouse and keyboard don't work anymore. Have fun rebooting by holding your power button. - What's that, you didn't pay attention to me for more than 5 minutes and I went to sleep? Well I'll just replace your screen with gibberish. - What's that, you want to step out without people replacing your desktop background? Well I'll just hide this password prompt and show you a nice picture of your desktop background instead. - What's that, you're trying to listen to music? Don't you just miss the old days when the cd would skip on a regular basis? I sure do! Besides, I don't like your music so as a bonus, Compiz has crashed! - What's that, you're in a dark environment and you want to reduce the brightness? Well fuck you, everything has crashed. But here, I'll just run this awesome flashlight app that maximizes your brightness. Have fun going blind, asshole. This last occurrence is the moment when I decided to format this hellspawn and go back to Mint. In short, you simply appear to be an active-aggresive douchebag. Just because something works for you, doesn't mean it does for everyone.
- SkyMarshal 13y ago
  You still have to actively check Ubuntu's hardware compatibility list [1] before buying/building new PC's, and avoid hardware that hasn't been confirmed. Sounds like some or all of your system - the network drivers especially, maybe video too - didn't have support yet. Definitely still a user experience problem inexperienced Linux users, but on fully supported hardware the user experience is good as Windows. >In short, you simply appear to be an active-aggresive douchebag. Yeah, a lot of that going around these days, isn't there. [1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
  - OmleteDuFromage 13y ago
    I was using an i7-3770k with an HD4000. It doesn't get any more generic than that. I'm not going to go out of my way to check if hardware is "Ubuntu cerftified", unless I'm going to lose my mind someday. There simply is no benefit in doing so, as long as other distros such as Mint (at least for me, I've heard of people having lots of issued with Mint too) or Windows work pretty much flawlessly
    - girvo 13y ago
      I run Ubuntu daily, on hardware like yours, and have had none of your issues. Weird.
    - warfangle 13y ago
      Sounds like you're using a motherboard that isn't supported, TBH.
    - SkyMarshal 13y ago
      >I've heard of people having lots of issued with Mint too It's based on Ubuntu, so probably shares some of the same problems, especially when it comes to driver support. Network and audio hardware is most often the main culprit, lots of no-name brands out there that mobo makers toss on to keep costs down, unlike CPU's and GPU's where there are only a few well known, well-supported options.
    - 13y ago
blumkvist 13y ago
I've been trying ubumtu since 8.04, revising it every year or so. Just tried 13.04 and it's the same old pile of... I encounter problems everywhere - updates crashing some program, alt+tab not working, drivers crashing, removing myself from sudoers file by accident, problems with flash, java is a pain to get going, etc. I need to do work and the OS gets in the way. I need to google a problem every day and that breaks my workflow. It's a terrible experience honestly. Very disappointed, because I love the idea, but hate Cannonical - so many years and so many supporters and they cann't figure this thing for 7+ years.
- Geee 13y ago
  As a general rule, it's important to remember that Linux is an OS made by amateurs and hobbyists. If a 5-year old kid shows you a drawing, you would say it's great, while it's actually piece of shit. Same mentality should be applied when reviewing Linux distros.
  - freyrs3 13y ago
    Linux has been hacked on by some of the most brilliant men and women of our generation and powers an enormous amount of the world's network infrastructure. Calling this an "amateur" project just demonstrates a staggering level of ignorance.
  - igravious 13y ago
    Either your comment is dripping with sarcasm of hidden depth or I wandered off news.ycombinator by accident for a second and have stumbled over some fine /. style flame-bait or you are trolling or you are unimaginably ignorant. On the off chance (though I find it hard to believe) that it is ignorance it may be of interest to you that this site runs on Linux. So I guess you'll be leaving our piece of shit forum now that you know.
  - code_duck 13y ago
    Wow, this comment just appeared through a time portal from 2001! Linux is firmly established in a variety of professional markets here in 2013. Please educate yourself before wasting time commenting.

OmleteDuFromage 13y ago

Well my attempt at running Ubuntu 12.04 convinced me that Ubuntu is Satan: - Both network and wireless drivers weren't working, so I had to go to a different machine and dig up some some sources from some obscure blog, copy them to a pen drive, go back, compile and install. - What's that, you want to update anything? Well fuck you, I'll rollback the network drivers you installed. - What's that, you're trying to watch more than 5 youtube videos in a row? Fuck you, Compiz has crashed! - While you were sleeping last night, I threw away all the stuff that you had on your desktop. Also, you can't right click on it anymore. What's that, did you right click more than 5 times in anger? Fuck you, Unity has crashed! - You're trying to search the web for solutions to all these crashes? Fuck you, Compiz has crashed! Also, your mouse and keyboard don't work anymore. Have fun rebooting by holding your power button. - What's that, you didn't pay attention to me for more than 5 minutes and I went to sleep? Well I'll just replace your screen with gibberish. - What's that, you want to step out without people replacing your desktop background? Well I'll just hide this password prompt and show you a nice picture of your desktop background instead. - What's that, you're trying to listen to music? Don't you just miss the old days when the cd would skip on a regular basis? I sure do! Besides, I don't like your music so as a bonus, Compiz has crashed! - What's that, you're in a dark environment and you want to reduce the brightness? Well fuck you, everything has crashed. But here, I'll just run this awesome flashlight app that maximizes your brightness. Have fun going blind, asshole. This last occurrence is the moment when I decided to format this hellspawn and go back to Mint. In short, you simply appear to be an active-aggresive douchebag. Just because something works for you, doesn't mean it does for everyone.

SkyMarshal 13y ago
You still have to actively check Ubuntu's hardware compatibility list [1] before buying/building new PC's, and avoid hardware that hasn't been confirmed. Sounds like some or all of your system - the network drivers especially, maybe video too - didn't have support yet. Definitely still a user experience problem inexperienced Linux users, but on fully supported hardware the user experience is good as Windows. >In short, you simply appear to be an active-aggresive douchebag. Yeah, a lot of that going around these days, isn't there. [1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
- OmleteDuFromage 13y ago
  I was using an i7-3770k with an HD4000. It doesn't get any more generic than that. I'm not going to go out of my way to check if hardware is "Ubuntu cerftified", unless I'm going to lose my mind someday. There simply is no benefit in doing so, as long as other distros such as Mint (at least for me, I've heard of people having lots of issued with Mint too) or Windows work pretty much flawlessly
  - girvo 13y ago
    I run Ubuntu daily, on hardware like yours, and have had none of your issues. Weird.
  - warfangle 13y ago
    Sounds like you're using a motherboard that isn't supported, TBH.
  - SkyMarshal 13y ago
    >I've heard of people having lots of issued with Mint too It's based on Ubuntu, so probably shares some of the same problems, especially when it comes to driver support. Network and audio hardware is most often the main culprit, lots of no-name brands out there that mobo makers toss on to keep costs down, unlike CPU's and GPU's where there are only a few well known, well-supported options.
  - 13y ago

blumkvist 13y ago

I've been trying ubumtu since 8.04, revising it every year or so. Just tried 13.04 and it's the same old pile of... I encounter problems everywhere - updates crashing some program, alt+tab not working, drivers crashing, removing myself from sudoers file by accident, problems with flash, java is a pain to get going, etc. I need to do work and the OS gets in the way. I need to google a problem every day and that breaks my workflow. It's a terrible experience honestly. Very disappointed, because I love the idea, but hate Cannonical - so many years and so many supporters and they cann't figure this thing for 7+ years.

Geee 13y ago
As a general rule, it's important to remember that Linux is an OS made by amateurs and hobbyists. If a 5-year old kid shows you a drawing, you would say it's great, while it's actually piece of shit. Same mentality should be applied when reviewing Linux distros.
- freyrs3 13y ago
  Linux has been hacked on by some of the most brilliant men and women of our generation and powers an enormous amount of the world's network infrastructure. Calling this an "amateur" project just demonstrates a staggering level of ignorance.
- igravious 13y ago
  Either your comment is dripping with sarcasm of hidden depth or I wandered off news.ycombinator by accident for a second and have stumbled over some fine /. style flame-bait or you are trolling or you are unimaginably ignorant. On the off chance (though I find it hard to believe) that it is ignorance it may be of interest to you that this site runs on Linux. So I guess you'll be leaving our piece of shit forum now that you know.
- code_duck 13y ago
  Wow, this comment just appeared through a time portal from 2001! Linux is firmly established in a variety of professional markets here in 2013. Please educate yourself before wasting time commenting.