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poverty is bad, poverty breeds poverty , the kid must be in school, I get it Kid is working reason would be either she needs to contribute for the family to m

poverty is bad, poverty breeds poverty , the kid must be in school, I get it Kid is working reason would be either she needs to contribute for the family to make ends meet or schooling is not accessible lets assume she is taken out of her work by this undercover sting operation, who would take care of her just pointing out the problem is not enough, giving a sustainable solution and follow through to get it implemented is needed as well

dbond 13y ago
And the exploitation of poverty sustains it.
- senthilnayagam 13y ago
  bottom of the pyramid has many problems which westerners dont get it, banning and sanction hurt poor people more than the governments of these poor nations search for "poverty porn" so many people have made careers out of it
- alphakappa 13y ago
  When companies outsource to countries like Bangladesh because of their cheap labor, it also provides jobs to millions of people there. They are not good jobs by our (western) standards, but they are better jobs than they could've had otherwise. Getting the kids out of the factories wouldn't do much unless their families had the means to sustain themselves. Bringing such stories in the public eye is a good thing though because it might help bring about better oversight of these operations, and an improvement in working conditions. The companies that outsource to Bangladesh might now have an incentive to keep an eye on the working conditions (surely it's possible to have decent working conditions while still having a relatively cheap operation?)
  - dbond 13y ago
    I understand the situation with providing jobs to people who may otherwise have to turn to much more terrible means of providing for themselves, but this is where there is exploitation of their situation by companies and as the end user of much of the products, us as westerners (although we may do little to change it). Factory workers are paid the minimum that the company can get away with, even though we could afford to pay them much more, they could get an education for their children or move their family out of the slums. I'm OK with children working in factories if that is the reality of their situation but we can afford and should pay them more than the paltry amount that just keeps them ticking over.
    - thecodeore 13y ago
      All companies, in every nation, pay the minimum they can get away with. In nations with no social structure, very little wealth, and no jobs the choice is not government hand out vs minimum wage, but a very low paying job or starvation. It would appear you would rather these children starve then to allow them to work for enough money to feed themsleves, possibly working up and out of poverty over generations. America did not just magically start out as a wealthy nation, for generations children labored on family farms, in business, and even in sweatshops. Generations ago a person had to work form dawn to dusk just to feed themselves, Today in America "poverty" is not having and iPhone or Broadband internet. The idea that we can magically transform these 3rd world nation into 1st world nations is naive at best, The same path America took, is the same path these nations must take. Over time wages will increase, conditions will improve, etc, this is a natural order of things. The good news is, this will happen MUCH MUST faster than it did in America. Check out these Videos http://www.learnliberty.org/videos/top-3-ways-sweatshops-help-poor-escape-poverty http://www.learnliberty.org/videos/top-3-ways-sweatshops-hel... http://www.learnliberty.org/content/unbelievable-truth-about-sweatshops http://www.learnliberty.org/content/unbelievable-truth-about... http://www.learnliberty.org/content/sweatshop-wages-and-third-world-workers-are-wages-worth-sweat http://www.learnliberty.org/content/sweatshop-wages-and-thir...
      - senthilnayagam 13y ago
        thanks for the videos, they are very informative
      - dbond 13y ago
        I would rather they not starve! I'm OK with children working in factories if that is the reality of their situation At no point here have I said we should shut the places down, in fact I've acknowledged the opposite. I'm not saying we need to transform third world nations into first world, that is just absurd. What I am saying is that they should be paid enough to afford proper housing and real futures, not the slim possibility of working themselves out of poverty over generations.
      - Klinky 13y ago

dbond 13y ago

And the exploitation of poverty sustains it.

senthilnayagam 13y ago
bottom of the pyramid has many problems which westerners dont get it, banning and sanction hurt poor people more than the governments of these poor nations search for "poverty porn" so many people have made careers out of it
alphakappa 13y ago
When companies outsource to countries like Bangladesh because of their cheap labor, it also provides jobs to millions of people there. They are not good jobs by our (western) standards, but they are better jobs than they could've had otherwise. Getting the kids out of the factories wouldn't do much unless their families had the means to sustain themselves. Bringing such stories in the public eye is a good thing though because it might help bring about better oversight of these operations, and an improvement in working conditions. The companies that outsource to Bangladesh might now have an incentive to keep an eye on the working conditions (surely it's possible to have decent working conditions while still having a relatively cheap operation?)
- dbond 13y ago
  I understand the situation with providing jobs to people who may otherwise have to turn to much more terrible means of providing for themselves, but this is where there is exploitation of their situation by companies and as the end user of much of the products, us as westerners (although we may do little to change it). Factory workers are paid the minimum that the company can get away with, even though we could afford to pay them much more, they could get an education for their children or move their family out of the slums. I'm OK with children working in factories if that is the reality of their situation but we can afford and should pay them more than the paltry amount that just keeps them ticking over.
  - thecodeore 13y ago
    All companies, in every nation, pay the minimum they can get away with. In nations with no social structure, very little wealth, and no jobs the choice is not government hand out vs minimum wage, but a very low paying job or starvation. It would appear you would rather these children starve then to allow them to work for enough money to feed themsleves, possibly working up and out of poverty over generations. America did not just magically start out as a wealthy nation, for generations children labored on family farms, in business, and even in sweatshops. Generations ago a person had to work form dawn to dusk just to feed themselves, Today in America "poverty" is not having and iPhone or Broadband internet. The idea that we can magically transform these 3rd world nation into 1st world nations is naive at best, The same path America took, is the same path these nations must take. Over time wages will increase, conditions will improve, etc, this is a natural order of things. The good news is, this will happen MUCH MUST faster than it did in America. Check out these Videos http://www.learnliberty.org/videos/top-3-ways-sweatshops-help-poor-escape-poverty http://www.learnliberty.org/videos/top-3-ways-sweatshops-hel... http://www.learnliberty.org/content/unbelievable-truth-about-sweatshops http://www.learnliberty.org/content/unbelievable-truth-about... http://www.learnliberty.org/content/sweatshop-wages-and-third-world-workers-are-wages-worth-sweat http://www.learnliberty.org/content/sweatshop-wages-and-thir...
    - senthilnayagam 13y ago
      thanks for the videos, they are very informative
    - dbond 13y ago
      I would rather they not starve! I'm OK with children working in factories if that is the reality of their situation At no point here have I said we should shut the places down, in fact I've acknowledged the opposite. I'm not saying we need to transform third world nations into first world, that is just absurd. What I am saying is that they should be paid enough to afford proper housing and real futures, not the slim possibility of working themselves out of poverty over generations.
    - Klinky 13y ago