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Let's set aside the fact that you've just decided to do a body shot off a colleague. > I cannot explain to men how hard it is being a woman trying to play it c
by kallekalle 13y ago
Let's set aside the fact that you've just decided to do a body shot off a colleague.
> I cannot explain to men how hard it is being a woman trying to play it cool in an industry of men. I want everyone to think I’m cool and relaxed so I try and just play by their rules. Regardless I got on the bar and lifted my shirt as far as I was comfortable.
You cite Wikipedia like it was a boolean logic kind of situation where just taking part means an invitation to anything a drunk brain can come up with.
Being drunk is not an excuse.
Sincerely,
a dude who likes women
- pearjuice 13y agoIf being drunk is not an excuse why did she throw all of her responsibilities out of the window and decided to climb on that bar, lift her shirt in front of colleagues and other professionals in her field? >I want everyone to think I’m cool and relaxed so I try and just play by their rules. followed by "Regardless" says a lot about her sense of responsibility and ability to see what exactly she was doing, implying and portraying by lying down on that bar. Or was it the alcohol? Because certainly nobody lifted her on that bar, right? Nobody pushed her down when her boss groped her? Nobody held her mouth open when her boss sticked his tongue in? Nobody told her "your boss has all right to touch you, Justine. Stay flat, your boyfriend will never know"?
- gregd 13y agoJesus christ. Lying down on bar - doing body shot != permission to sexually assault.
- general_failure 13y agoI disagree. I have never heard the term body shot before but from all wikipedia tells me, I would conside it acceptable for a man to grab a womaons ass if the woman was in a body shot. If the woman screams no that's a different this g but it didnt happen here.
- gregd 13y agoI disagree So you believe that if you do a body shot of off someone, you then have permission to sexually assault them? Wow..
- jacobtracey 13y agoPeople in this world do just grab peoples asses, kiss them, etc. all the time without explicit consent. Even without doing body shots.
- general_failure 13y agoExactly. If someone goes as far as a body shot , I consider something like kissing very minor detail. Maybe its a cultural thing. I see this in movies all the time. Now you guys are telling me its sexual assault.
- chris_wot 13y agoIndeed, we are.
- steveklabnik 13y agoWe call this "rape culture."
- jacobtracey 13y agoMy girlfriend put her hand in my pants without asking this morning, so she's part of 'rape culture'?
- steveklabnik 13y agoI have plenty of personal interaction, thanks. A couple is different than a married CEO and his employees. I don't feel you're arguing in good faith, so I'll leave it at that.
- ryanbrunner 13y agoIf her complaint was that the bodyshot itself constituted sexual assault, sure. Otherwise your argument is literally no different than "she was wearing a short skirt and therefore deserved it."