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Just for the fun of it, why exactly is this not a minor issue? The pictures are (i presume) obviously amateurish, and from what I gather more erotic then actual

Just for the fun of it, why exactly is this not a minor issue? The pictures are (i presume) obviously amateurish, and from what I gather more erotic then actual porn. So in what way would having that videoclip on youporn or in a torrent affect her in a major way?

tptacek 17y ago
They'll still be there when she's 35.
- donaq 17y ago
  What if 50% of 35 year-olds have nudies on the net by then?
  - Tichy 17y ago
    Startup idea: yournudeapplicant.com which automatically matches your job applicants with porn sites. Might help with hiring decisions to get a look "under the hood".
- radu_floricica 17y ago
  That's more or less a given, though they will be just one drop in an ocean. But still, how would they affect her? Because other then some really childish "have you seen her pic nacked from when she was 16?!" among a couple of coworkers, I honestly cannot think of anything.
  - Tichy 17y ago
    Except that Google is really good at finding drops in the Ocean. What if there had been nude pics of Obama on the internet, would they have hurt his chances for becoming president? I think it depends on the job - not all women become secretaries.
    - radu_floricica 17y ago
      > What if there had been nude pics of Obama on the internet, would they have hurt his chances for becoming president? Probably less then 20 years ago, and even less in 10 years. But yes, this is one possible consequence. Actions do have consequences, and it's parent's job to make sure they're not too grave. But still, having some difficulty being elected into office isn't really a problem for 99% of all people. I was afraid someone would point out something serious I had overlooked, but if this is the worst of it, it means having your naked picture on the net isn't so big anymore.
      - Tichy 17y ago
        I totally expect perceptions and expectations to shift in the future. Employers will have to realize that they hire human beings, not worker drones. In fact, maybe it will become creepy to not have any displays of being a human online.
      - brc 17y ago
        In a recent Australian election, one of the candidates had an old boyfriend sell a set of semi-nude pictures taken in the 1970's into a paper. The paper, of course, ran them as a front-page news and everyone was left questioning the moral issue. Basically : so what? End of the story was: she didn't get elected, but then she was unlikely to be elected anyway. And eventually she produced evidence that the photos were fake (by releasing a photo taken around the same date which showed her with a different haircut), and the papers had to retract the story and officially apologise, which they of course did after the election. What I am saying here is that you don't need digital cameras and the internet to get nude photos circulated, and that I think it will become the norm for just about everyone to have embarassing photos lurking under the closet, and will become a non-issue for employment, politics and more. As long as it is plain-vanilla pics in your underwear, I doubt it would cause any long term effects.
    - philwelch 17y ago
      You know, over on the less puritanical continent, actual nude models have been elected to high offices. Hell, I seem to remember seeing Arnold naked in the Terminator movies and he still got himself elected Governor of California.
- ahoyhere 17y ago
  So would any baby she might have had, or (some) sexually transmitted diseases she could have caught, also if she dropped out or failed out of HS, that'd still be there too. Interestingly, those other things are not illegal.
ErrantX 17y ago
A worrying argument: what happens when her images make their way onto the CP networks and some crazy person decides he is madly in love and tracks her down (yes, this does happen). If nothing else she is likely yo be inundated with lewd emails/messages/IM. It wont be pleasant - but, then, in this case perhaps it is a life lesson she needs.....
- pyr3 17y ago
  > A worrying argument: what happens when her images make their way onto the CP networks and some crazy person decides he is madly in love and tracks her down (yes, this does happen). She doesn't need nude pictures on a 'child porn network' for something like that to happen. Plain-clothes pictures of herself on a Facebook/MySpace page the is public could be enough. So I hardly see how this makes it an offense worth destroying the rest of someone's life over.

tptacek 17y ago

They'll still be there when she's 35.

donaq 17y ago
What if 50% of 35 year-olds have nudies on the net by then?
- Tichy 17y ago
  Startup idea: yournudeapplicant.com which automatically matches your job applicants with porn sites. Might help with hiring decisions to get a look "under the hood".
radu_floricica 17y ago
That's more or less a given, though they will be just one drop in an ocean. But still, how would they affect her? Because other then some really childish "have you seen her pic nacked from when she was 16?!" among a couple of coworkers, I honestly cannot think of anything.
- Tichy 17y ago
  Except that Google is really good at finding drops in the Ocean. What if there had been nude pics of Obama on the internet, would they have hurt his chances for becoming president? I think it depends on the job - not all women become secretaries.
  - radu_floricica 17y ago
    > What if there had been nude pics of Obama on the internet, would they have hurt his chances for becoming president? Probably less then 20 years ago, and even less in 10 years. But yes, this is one possible consequence. Actions do have consequences, and it's parent's job to make sure they're not too grave. But still, having some difficulty being elected into office isn't really a problem for 99% of all people. I was afraid someone would point out something serious I had overlooked, but if this is the worst of it, it means having your naked picture on the net isn't so big anymore.
    - Tichy 17y ago
      I totally expect perceptions and expectations to shift in the future. Employers will have to realize that they hire human beings, not worker drones. In fact, maybe it will become creepy to not have any displays of being a human online.
    - brc 17y ago
      In a recent Australian election, one of the candidates had an old boyfriend sell a set of semi-nude pictures taken in the 1970's into a paper. The paper, of course, ran them as a front-page news and everyone was left questioning the moral issue. Basically : so what? End of the story was: she didn't get elected, but then she was unlikely to be elected anyway. And eventually she produced evidence that the photos were fake (by releasing a photo taken around the same date which showed her with a different haircut), and the papers had to retract the story and officially apologise, which they of course did after the election. What I am saying here is that you don't need digital cameras and the internet to get nude photos circulated, and that I think it will become the norm for just about everyone to have embarassing photos lurking under the closet, and will become a non-issue for employment, politics and more. As long as it is plain-vanilla pics in your underwear, I doubt it would cause any long term effects.
  - philwelch 17y ago
    You know, over on the less puritanical continent, actual nude models have been elected to high offices. Hell, I seem to remember seeing Arnold naked in the Terminator movies and he still got himself elected Governor of California.
ahoyhere 17y ago
So would any baby she might have had, or (some) sexually transmitted diseases she could have caught, also if she dropped out or failed out of HS, that'd still be there too. Interestingly, those other things are not illegal.

ErrantX 17y ago

A worrying argument: what happens when her images make their way onto the CP networks and some crazy person decides he is madly in love and tracks her down (yes, this does happen). If nothing else she is likely yo be inundated with lewd emails/messages/IM. It wont be pleasant - but, then, in this case perhaps it is a life lesson she needs.....

pyr3 17y ago
> A worrying argument: what happens when her images make their way onto the CP networks and some crazy person decides he is madly in love and tracks her down (yes, this does happen). She doesn't need nude pictures on a 'child porn network' for something like that to happen. Plain-clothes pictures of herself on a Facebook/MySpace page the is public could be enough. So I hardly see how this makes it an offense worth destroying the rest of someone's life over.