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Curious to know if your Asterisk system is susceptible to red boxing.

by nsxwolf 13y ago

periferral 13y ago
I was unaware of red boxing. Had to look it up. Pretty neat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_box_%28phreaking%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_box_%28phreaking%29
- pavel_lishin 13y ago
  May I ask how old you are? I feel like a lot of people my age with an interest in "hacking" had one of these back in the day.
  - ck2 13y ago
    Steve Jobs started like that (blue boxing) and somehow avoided prison like what would happen today. Could be an alternate universe timeline for him.
    - gcb0 13y ago
      ironically, every self respecting hacker would be ok if he was trhow in jail for that. He didn't invent it or anything close to that, but tried to sell and make money. lacking a proper car analogy, akin to a script kiddie advertising malware he found on some BBS of later.
  - periferral 13y ago
    im 36. One disclaimer is that I didn't grow up in the US. Since I've been here, I've owned a cell phone and the need to use payphones were very limited. Maybe you can share how old you are to get a sense of what age group carried these around?
    - pavel_lishin 13y ago
      Nobody, now, for the reasons you said. I think I was around 13, which would have been 1997 - a red box was a simple thing to build if you had any sort of soldering supplies, and moderately fun to play with. I didn't even really have anyone I needed to call - I think I probably used it maybe three times in my entire life.
EvanAnderson 13y ago
It should be since all the coin-drop signaling is in-band.
- deleted 13y ago
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gcb0 13y ago
He is making it so. But that is interesting. The 80's system creators, probably let the authentication (rate and money counting) on the backend. And didn't filtered input probably because they thought anyone willing the cheat would just cut the wires and bypass any filter on the phone to send the tones... so in the end, the whole system was based on the tones being secret. The 90's system assumes anyone cheating would be deterred by the sofware on the phone, and leaves an open line? So it is based on everyone using the phone? what happens if someone bypass the phone and go to the wire directly? is there a tone?

Curious to know if your Asterisk system is susceptible to red boxing.

by nsxwolf 13y ago

Curious to know if your Asterisk system is susceptible to red boxing.

I was unaware of red boxing. Had to look it up. Pretty neat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_box_%28phreaking%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_box_%28phreaking%29

pavel_lishin 13y ago
May I ask how old you are? I feel like a lot of people my age with an interest in "hacking" had one of these back in the day.
- ck2 13y ago
  Steve Jobs started like that (blue boxing) and somehow avoided prison like what would happen today. Could be an alternate universe timeline for him.
  - gcb0 13y ago
    ironically, every self respecting hacker would be ok if he was trhow in jail for that. He didn't invent it or anything close to that, but tried to sell and make money. lacking a proper car analogy, akin to a script kiddie advertising malware he found on some BBS of later.
- periferral 13y ago
  im 36. One disclaimer is that I didn't grow up in the US. Since I've been here, I've owned a cell phone and the need to use payphones were very limited. Maybe you can share how old you are to get a sense of what age group carried these around?
  - pavel_lishin 13y ago
    Nobody, now, for the reasons you said. I think I was around 13, which would have been 1997 - a red box was a simple thing to build if you had any sort of soldering supplies, and moderately fun to play with. I didn't even really have anyone I needed to call - I think I probably used it maybe three times in my entire life.

EvanAnderson 13y ago

It should be since all the coin-drop signaling is in-band.

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gcb0 13y ago

He is making it so. But that is interesting. The 80's system creators, probably let the authentication (rate and money counting) on the backend. And didn't filtered input probably because they thought anyone willing the cheat would just cut the wires and bypass any filter on the phone to send the tones... so in the end, the whole system was based on the tones being secret. The 90's system assumes anyone cheating would be deterred by the sofware on the phone, and leaves an open line? So it is based on everyone using the phone? what happens if someone bypass the phone and go to the wire directly? is there a tone?