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I wouldn't mind. Peoples' lives are on the line. I'd rather it be 99.99% right than the 90% as it currently is. As it stands the justice system is so overwhelmi

by yardie 13y ago

I wouldn't mind. Peoples' lives are on the line. I'd rather it be 99.99% right than the 90% as it currently is. As it stands the justice system is so overwhelmingly one-sided people are forced to take plea less they run out of money and have their case bounced from one disinterested PD. Also, I was being reductive because of the tone of your last sentence. Prosecutions are expensive and so are prisons.

crusso 13y ago
I wouldn't mind. I would assume that the reason you're here goofing around on HN instead of making something so important to you a reality would be... hell, I can only think of "hypocrisy".
- yardie 13y ago
  As a person of color I would say less hypocrisy and more cynicism. I've experienced the injustice of the US justice system and until the current lawmakers drop dead I don't see how it's going to change when 70% of the population think everything is fine (though that number is decreasing) and the justice system works and works fairly.
- blueblob 13y ago
  What is your definition of hypocrisy? Perhaps it's just me, but I don't see, first of all, how he was being hypocritical. Second of all, you are also "goofing around on HN" so why are you giving this person so much crap? Last time I checked saying something should change and saying you would do it are different things.
rayiner 13y ago
> I wouldn't mind. Peoples' lives are on the line. I'd rather it be 99.99% right than the 90% as it currently is. The justice system has two basic functions: to punish the guilty and protect the innocent. False positives means there is a trade-off between how well it can do both functions at the same time. Society makes the decision about the appropriate balance between the two. If courts make it too burdensome to prosecute and punish the guilty, people will respond with harsher laws, longer sentences, etc. You might be okay with setting the burden at 99.99% certainty, but the history of votes on the issue suggest that most Americans want a lower burden than that.

by yardie 13y ago

crusso 13y ago

I wouldn't mind. I would assume that the reason you're here goofing around on HN instead of making something so important to you a reality would be... hell, I can only think of "hypocrisy".

yardie 13y ago
As a person of color I would say less hypocrisy and more cynicism. I've experienced the injustice of the US justice system and until the current lawmakers drop dead I don't see how it's going to change when 70% of the population think everything is fine (though that number is decreasing) and the justice system works and works fairly.
blueblob 13y ago
What is your definition of hypocrisy? Perhaps it's just me, but I don't see, first of all, how he was being hypocritical. Second of all, you are also "goofing around on HN" so why are you giving this person so much crap? Last time I checked saying something should change and saying you would do it are different things.

rayiner 13y ago

> I wouldn't mind. Peoples' lives are on the line. I'd rather it be 99.99% right than the 90% as it currently is. The justice system has two basic functions: to punish the guilty and protect the innocent. False positives means there is a trade-off between how well it can do both functions at the same time. Society makes the decision about the appropriate balance between the two. If courts make it too burdensome to prosecute and punish the guilty, people will respond with harsher laws, longer sentences, etc. You might be okay with setting the burden at 99.99% certainty, but the history of votes on the issue suggest that most Americans want a lower burden than that.