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The current cohort of web browsers is the first to feature universal support for SVG: http://caniuse.com/#search=svg http://caniuse.com/#search=svg

by pirho 13y ago

rurounijones 13y ago
But since a large number of people are still using old browsers (IE and Android[1] specifically spring to mind) excluding them still seems like a no-go and makes these icons much less desirable for commercial sites. They are extremely cool though, I love the animation and styling especially. The grunt integration looks great too. These really look like icons to make developers / designers happy [1] Approx 30% of android users are still using < 3.0 http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html [EDIT] At risk of side-tracking things, I am not sure on their stance on the "save" icon
- exo_duz 13y ago
  That's really surprising. Seems like the following are supported in Android 3.0 and above: SVG (basic support) SVG in HTML img element SVG in CSS backgrounds Inline SVG in HTML5 SVG SMIL animation SVG fonts If I was going to use it, my concern would be for IE 8 on XP because XP cannot upgrade after IE 8. You can use modernizr.js to test whether it is supported and create a fallback I suppose.
  - josteink 13y ago
    At this point, you have to start questioning what market-share IE8 has and if putting in effort to support that fraction is worth the effort. At some point the web has to be allowed to move on. I say that point is now. Yes, there is a considerable amount of people stuck on Windows XP for whatever valid or invalid reasons. No, I don't believe for a second that all of them runs IE.
- nailer 13y ago
  What's their save icon? ↓ - (with less spacing - HN formatting is odd) ...seems to the current thinking elsewhere.
  - ajanuary 13y ago
    http://dribbble.com/shots/1020838-Save-Icon-Concept http://dribbble.com/shots/1020838-Save-Icon-Concept is my favourite of the ones I've seen.
    - mbesto 13y ago
      > The floppy disk icon is outdated. I don't get this sentiment. Just because we think its outdated doesn't negate it's utility. If ain't broken, don't fix it.
      - rurounijones 13y ago
        That is basically my thinking. The link to a page where a designer opines about how the Radiation and biohazard are great symbols because they are no understandable on first glance, memorable and need to be taught. Just like a floppy symbol. If you are young you wont understand it and need to be taught the meaning, the only possible part is the "memorable" test but...well, opinions and all.
        dasil003 13y ago
        Sorry I missed something. Why does not being understandable on first glance make for a great symbol?
        rurounijones 13y ago
        I have no effing idea, but the designer praised those three qualities. Maybe no pre-conception?
      - nailer 13y ago
        > Just because we think its outdated doesn't negate it's utility. It makes it harder to learn. And there will be more people learning to compute tomorrow than who compute today.
Breefield 13y ago
I am curious what the fallback support looks like for these.
- m_mueller 13y ago
  I'm trying to load it in IE8 in my XP VM - as far as I can see the CSS doesn't even load (FF in the same VM worked however). I was really stoked about this icon set, thinking 'finally someone has done it, now we have an icon set for true responsive web develop without the hassles' - bummer. It would be nice if OP included 'current limitations' and 'roadmap' somewhere. I guess it's back to pngs and media properties and/or icon fonts, 12% of the user base is too large to miss. It's still great to see what awaits us around end of next year. XP is definitely EOL somewhere next year, which will trigger a good chunk of companies to upgrade. Old Androids will hopefully wash out of the market as well until then - also I'd say their web usage shouldn't be that relevant, except if you target emerging markets.

The current cohort of web browsers is the first to feature universal support for SVG: http://caniuse.com/#search=svg http://caniuse.com/#search=svg

by pirho 13y ago

The current cohort of web browsers is the first to feature universal support for SVG: http://caniuse.com/#search=svg http://caniuse.com/#search=svg

rurounijones 13y ago

But since a large number of people are still using old browsers (IE and Android[1] specifically spring to mind) excluding them still seems like a no-go and makes these icons much less desirable for commercial sites. They are extremely cool though, I love the animation and styling especially. The grunt integration looks great too. These really look like icons to make developers / designers happy [1] Approx 30% of android users are still using < 3.0 http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html [EDIT] At risk of side-tracking things, I am not sure on their stance on the "save" icon

exo_duz 13y ago
That's really surprising. Seems like the following are supported in Android 3.0 and above: SVG (basic support) SVG in HTML img element SVG in CSS backgrounds Inline SVG in HTML5 SVG SMIL animation SVG fonts If I was going to use it, my concern would be for IE 8 on XP because XP cannot upgrade after IE 8. You can use modernizr.js to test whether it is supported and create a fallback I suppose.
- josteink 13y ago
  At this point, you have to start questioning what market-share IE8 has and if putting in effort to support that fraction is worth the effort. At some point the web has to be allowed to move on. I say that point is now. Yes, there is a considerable amount of people stuck on Windows XP for whatever valid or invalid reasons. No, I don't believe for a second that all of them runs IE.
nailer 13y ago
What's their save icon? ↓ - (with less spacing - HN formatting is odd) ...seems to the current thinking elsewhere.
- ajanuary 13y ago
  http://dribbble.com/shots/1020838-Save-Icon-Concept http://dribbble.com/shots/1020838-Save-Icon-Concept is my favourite of the ones I've seen.
  - mbesto 13y ago
    > The floppy disk icon is outdated. I don't get this sentiment. Just because we think its outdated doesn't negate it's utility. If ain't broken, don't fix it.
    - rurounijones 13y ago
      That is basically my thinking. The link to a page where a designer opines about how the Radiation and biohazard are great symbols because they are no understandable on first glance, memorable and need to be taught. Just like a floppy symbol. If you are young you wont understand it and need to be taught the meaning, the only possible part is the "memorable" test but...well, opinions and all.
      - dasil003 13y ago
        Sorry I missed something. Why does not being understandable on first glance make for a great symbol?
        rurounijones 13y ago
        I have no effing idea, but the designer praised those three qualities. Maybe no pre-conception?
    - nailer 13y ago
      > Just because we think its outdated doesn't negate it's utility. It makes it harder to learn. And there will be more people learning to compute tomorrow than who compute today.

Breefield 13y ago

I am curious what the fallback support looks like for these.

m_mueller 13y ago
I'm trying to load it in IE8 in my XP VM - as far as I can see the CSS doesn't even load (FF in the same VM worked however). I was really stoked about this icon set, thinking 'finally someone has done it, now we have an icon set for true responsive web develop without the hassles' - bummer. It would be nice if OP included 'current limitations' and 'roadmap' somewhere. I guess it's back to pngs and media properties and/or icon fonts, 12% of the user base is too large to miss. It's still great to see what awaits us around end of next year. XP is definitely EOL somewhere next year, which will trigger a good chunk of companies to upgrade. Old Androids will hopefully wash out of the market as well until then - also I'd say their web usage shouldn't be that relevant, except if you target emerging markets.