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I am not clear how they were supposed to 'target' Russia, exactly? How could they control what information is leaked to them?
by bandushrew 13y ago
I am not clear how they were supposed to 'target' Russia, exactly? How could they control what information is leaked to them?
- BWStearns 13y agoFun things never published: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/1026/WikiLeaks-ready-to-drop-a-bombshell-on-Russia.-But-will-Russians-get-to-read-about-it http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/1026/WikiLeaks-re... The closest thing that WL has on their website that is even embarrassing to Russia is a Wikipedia rip of Anna Politkovskaya's summary. Everything else is either coincidental or "anti-Syria" voices saying mean things about Russia. Really, the US is the only country with people in government who disagree with their government?
- bandushrew 13y agoI dont know? surely a combination is needed? someone who disagrees, has the courage to act, knows about wikileaks and has access to information in a medium that is amenable to upload. Im perfectly willing to believe that the combination is a lot more rare in Russia or China than it is in America.
- BWStearns 13y agoThey publicly announced that they had some pretty mind blowing shit on Russia... which they never released. This leads me to believe a) they never had it to begin with, or b) they bitched out on the execution and decided fucking with a government who might actually hurt them was a bad idea. In either case, I lose respect.
- asgard1024 13y ago> In either case, I lose respect. Really? So if a dissident decides to stop dissenting due to increased government pressure, we should lose respect to all the work he did previously? Just because he was not courageous enough to continue, someone, who didn't have the courage in the first place, will lose respect to him? Moral hypocrisy 101.
- bandushrew 13y agoThey did the same thing with the bank info. who knows what happened for those stories. <shrug>
- jcbrand 13y agoDaniel Domscheit-Berg (the same guy who wrote the hit-piece book on Assange and worked on "The Fifth Estate" movie) destroyed those leaks in an apparent attempt to sabotage Wikileaks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Domscheit-Berg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Domscheit-Berg http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/wiki-war-3500-unpublished-leaks-destroyed-forever-as-assange-hits-out-20110822-1j5gw.html http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/wiki-war-35...
- makomk 13y agoOr (c) one of their trusted members sabotaged them and deleted their unreleased information before it could be made public. I'd go with (c) because we know a guy called Daniel Domscheit-Berg actually did this. Coincidentally, he's also one of the sources this film is based on.
- dobbsbob 13y agoTheir biggest source was Manning, who only had access to US intel. Hence a disproportionate amount of US leaks. If you go through their archives from before the Manning leaks theres plenty of Russia, Canada, Aus, UK and other countries intel being dumped
- BWStearns 13y agoSearched their website yesterday. Literally the only thing that mentions Russia in a non-incidental way is the Politkovskaya mini-biography. Agreed that Canada/Aus/UK are well represented, but if we have Canada/UK/US/Aus/Russia, which one of those things is not like the other?
- preab 13y agoOr was it published? "Wikileaks: Russia branded 'mafia state' in cables" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11893886 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11893886
- BWStearns 13y agoNope. That is unrelated and is an incidental mention within the cables.