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I'll jump into this touchy subject. The reason why there are not efforts to balance the other fields you mention is because of the "position of power"/"social p
by smtddr 13y ago
I'll jump into this touchy subject. The reason why there are not efforts to balance the other fields you mention is because of the "position of power"/"social prestige" of said jobs.
I don't think anyone can debate that due to complicated social/economic issues, but significantly sexism/racism, the history of USA shows that jobs with power/prestige are usually held by white males. Oprah Winfrey crying at Obama's speech wouldn't of happened if Obama just became the first black garbage man. It was about the power/prestige of a black man being USA president. Sexism pretty much puts women as teachers & nurses and "men"(or society in general) is apparently fine with that. Road maintenance, garbage collection? Those are low-prestige & physical/dirty work. That's for minorities & men. Society(sexism) probably prevents most women from even considering those jobs and the few that do, I'm sure are greeted with an insane amount of inappropriate jokes/comments.
Now, since positions of power/prestige tend to have a much greater impact on overall society, having some balance in those positions will help make products & laws more diverse to reflect the diverse society we're in. BTW, this is why I find it ridiculous the concept of exclusively men making laws on abortion.
Anecdotal: When I was a kid, I had to take some kind of "development" test to see if I was generally progressing properly. I failed that test, the results stated things such as "No solid understanding of reality vs fantasy". My parents were livid. They went to school to complain. Turns out, a lot of parents were complaining. Also turns out, all the complaining parents were foreigners. And it also turned out that the questions on the test had a heavy assumption that you were an american child with american parents. I didn't know what a pizza was when I was a kid; that's one of the questions I bombed. My parents never got it for me; at least not yet. The school ended up having to put the test-questions through some kind of minority/foreign-parents verification process and re-do the tests for everyone.
- philwelch 13y agoHistorically, programming was low-prestige as well.
- belorn 13y agoAnd sysadmins are basically a combination of an janitor and mechanic that works on computers, keeping the lights working and the machine buzzing.
- smtddr 13y agoTrue, but the background required for it... math & science, that was historically a "man's skill"(sexism). Women went to school for things related to home-making, if they went to school at all. That's why this story has an impact: http://braythwayt.com/posterous/2012/03/29/a-womans-story.html http://braythwayt.com/posterous/2012/03/29/a-womans-story.ht... EDIT: Wow, this story fell off the frontpage fast...
- philwelch 13y agoI think you have your timelines mixed up a bit. In 1995, right before the tech bubble, programming was definitely low prestige and women were definitely already well educated, earning about half of the college degrees. In fact, there's a direct cause and effect going on--programming became high prestige, which caused the feminist hullabaloo about not having enough women programmers that we see today. If programming was already high prestige this would not be news to us and there would already be more women programmers, just as people in the past were obsessed with having more women doctors and lawyers and now there are lots of them.