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The point is that the opinion of someone who has used a language and platform is of inherently more value when judging said platform than the opinion of someon

The point is that the opinion of someone who has used a language and platform is of inherently more value when judging said platform than the opinion of someone who is coming from a position of total ignorance. In this sense your statement is a logical fallacy.

asdasf 13y ago
Your statement is a non-sequitur. In no sense does that make my statement a logical fallacy.
- hugofirth 13y ago
  My statement is absolutely relevant to yours. Also, see my comment above. The technical definition of "like" requires someone to have "found" (/used in this context) the thing that they are "liking". Therefore it is incorrect to say you actually dislike something from a position of 0 exposure to it. This may seem like petty semantics however it is no worse than preaching to others from a position of ignorance.
Kesty 13y ago
Actually not in a case like this. This is not a pool for finding what is the "Best Language" (best language for what ?), but a pool to find what languages programmers like or dislike. That is a matter of personal taste and opinion and there is not a wrong or a right answer. Obviously if you have never seen or used or looked at the language you shouldn't vote on what other people say, but you don't really need to know the ins and out to make a personal decision.
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- hugofirth 13y ago
  I never held that there was a right or wrong answer, however the purpose of a poll is to infer value to the people reading it (otherwise the OP might as well write it on a piece of paper and put it in a drawer). The definition of "like" the verb is "To find agreeable, enjoyable, satisfactory". The key word in that definition is find. How can someone "like" (in the true meaning of the word) something, or for that matter "dislike" something, if they have never "found" (/used) that something in the first place. Therefore it is incorrect to say that you personally like or dislike something if you have not had direct exposure to that something. At most it would be correct to say that others in your peer/social group like or dislike something.

asdasf 13y ago

Your statement is a non-sequitur. In no sense does that make my statement a logical fallacy.

hugofirth 13y ago
My statement is absolutely relevant to yours. Also, see my comment above. The technical definition of "like" requires someone to have "found" (/used in this context) the thing that they are "liking". Therefore it is incorrect to say you actually dislike something from a position of 0 exposure to it. This may seem like petty semantics however it is no worse than preaching to others from a position of ignorance.

Kesty 13y ago

Actually not in a case like this. This is not a pool for finding what is the "Best Language" (best language for what ?), but a pool to find what languages programmers like or dislike. That is a matter of personal taste and opinion and there is not a wrong or a right answer. Obviously if you have never seen or used or looked at the language you shouldn't vote on what other people say, but you don't really need to know the ins and out to make a personal decision.

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hugofirth 13y ago
I never held that there was a right or wrong answer, however the purpose of a poll is to infer value to the people reading it (otherwise the OP might as well write it on a piece of paper and put it in a drawer). The definition of "like" the verb is "To find agreeable, enjoyable, satisfactory". The key word in that definition is find. How can someone "like" (in the true meaning of the word) something, or for that matter "dislike" something, if they have never "found" (/used) that something in the first place. Therefore it is incorrect to say that you personally like or dislike something if you have not had direct exposure to that something. At most it would be correct to say that others in your peer/social group like or dislike something.