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And, unlike Java, C++ lets you pack value objects contiguously in memory, which can be a massive performance win due to better cache behavior/no pointer chasing

And, unlike Java, C++ lets you pack value objects contiguously in memory, which can be a massive performance win due to better cache behavior/no pointer chasing. Certainly, and it is one of the features that I am often missing in Java. Rather than having an array of structs, you need to make n parallel arrays, where n is the number of struct fields. And sometimes such hacks are necessary to make things compact and fast. But I do understand why they don't provide value types. Say, that I am allocating an array of foobar_t. And foobar_t is defined in another library. If the author of the other library changes the layout of foobar_t, you get ABI breakage. This is what brought the whole PIMPL/d-pointer mess that is often necessary in C++ and to some extend C libraries.

cageface 13y ago
For sure. Mixed value/reference semantics add a lot of complexity to C++.
n3rd 13y ago
IBM's Java 7 and 8 beta's already have this. It's called Packed Objects and it lets you have have high density data with no pointer chasing along with a much cleaner interface to off-heap languages like C/C++/C# and even languages like Fortran/COBOL etc. http://www.slideshare.net/mmitran/ibm-java-packed-objects-mmit-20121120 http://www.slideshare.net/mmitran/ibm-java-packed-objects-mm... and http://www.slideshare.net/ZeroTurnaround/ryan-sciampaconeruntimeinnovationnextgenninjahackingofthejvm-24613149 http://www.slideshare.net/ZeroTurnaround/ryan-sciampaconerun...