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I can't get to to the article, but I've read about the issue elsewhere. This outrage is a bit misplaced: 1) South African teachers/vendors/Education Departmen
by buyx 13y ago
I can't get to to the article, but I've read about the issue elsewhere. This outrage is a bit misplaced:
1) South African teachers/vendors/Education Departments lack the skills to manage non-Microsoft systems. Yes it shouldn't be that way, but it is.
2) Java is not really a great first programming language (see Joel on JavaSchools). Pascal, and, later Delphi have been taught for years, and are well understood by teachers. They should probably just dump Delphi, and stick to Pascal. Attempts to look "relevant" end up looking foolish.
In the early-mid 1990's, when I was in what's today called grade 8 and 9 I did LOGO, for non-examinable Computer Studies, and it was brilliant. Although I didn't choose Computer Studies for my later school years(where Pascal was used), when I got to university, my positive early experiences drew me back into the world of CS. I doubt I would have gotten the same visceral thrill that I got from LOGO, if I had to wrestle with AWT or Swing at the time.
School Computer Studies is NOT meant to be a gateway to a career, and there are plenty of post-school options for people who want to become programmers. Computer Studies isn't even a prerequisite for university CS - everything is taught from scratch again. It also seems like recent graduates of some of the insitutions ("Universities of Technology", formerly Technikons) that supposedly focus on carreer preparedness struggle with concepts like writing loops. Perhaps these Technikons and programming colleges should also focus on the basics first, before worrying about "career readiness".
SA schooling is a mess. Maths and science teachers don't understand their subjects. Teacher unions obstruct reform. We have sunk to the bottom in the world rankings. This particular issue is a meaningless distraction.
- Nanzikambe 13y agoYes indeed, the freedom to chose a F/OSS alternative in a environment where software is 60-70% of the TCO of a PC, is a BAD thing because learning isn't in the job description of teachers. I do disagree with this oft regurgitated anecdotal (sorry in advance) shite :-P
- disputin 13y ago"I do disagree with this oft regurgitated anecdotal (sorry in advance) shite :-P" "A long time ago, in a country I won't name, I was contracted to provide..." :P
- Nanzikambe 13y agoI think you'd need to cite other examples of me, specifically, relating that story to qualify it "as oft regurgitated" and anecdotal, and as my anecdote doesn't set out to present the case for less choice being good, I'd argue relevance :)
- disputin 13y agoAn alternative to Delphi? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_(software) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_(software)