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Snark aside, I feel very sorry for those involved in pushing out the "results" early. I cannot see anything good happening to them.

by bdevine 13y ago

coherentpony 13y ago
They are criminals. Why on Earth should anything 'good' happen to them as a result of this?
- nwh 13y ago
  I doubt it was the programmers intention. Sit back and realise that somebody is probably going to be murdered for pushing to the wrong database.
  - emilsedgh 13y ago
    Somebody who was involved with fixation of election results :) Not that I think he deserves being murdured. Of course not. But, he was betraying his fellow countrymen by 'pushing to a database'. I dont think he really deserve's that sympathy.
    - dbaupp 13y ago
      Maybe s/he was doing the opposite: pushing it now was the most effective way to reveal the corruption, i.e. leaking the secret.
      - jusben1369 13y ago
        The "Snowden" of Azerbaijan or just a complete incompetent. Fascinating.
    - SoftwareMaven 13y ago
      If you've got two guys with AK-47s standing behind you, do you get a choice in the matter? Even if they aren't standing behind, the implication is that they are there when a despot comes to you for an app. Maybe the early release was civil disobedience.
      - dingaling 13y ago
        > If you've got two guys with AK-47s standing behind you I know it sounds technical to use such a precise level of designation, but there are very very few AK-47s in circulation. Their production ended in 1959. As with any domain of knowledge it's best to dither to a lesser degree of precision if you're not an expert. 'Two guys with rifles'.
        SoftwareMaven 13y ago
        Wow. This is the level of discourse you are bringing? Believe it or not, I chose the AK-47 specifically for the visual it brings to mind and the fact that most people recognize it and its distinctive shape. That it may be a cheap Chinese knock off is immaterial.
        DanBC 13y ago
        > there are very very few AK-47s in circulation. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47) > Even after six decades the model and its variants remain the most widely used and popular assault rifles in the world because of their durability, low production cost, availability, and ease of use.
    - eric_cc 13y ago
      > "Somebody who was involved with fixation of election results " That's your assumption.
    - nickik 13y ago
      Yeah because a low payed govermnt programmer has a huge amount of choice. A dicator ship depends on few people to survive and in general all jobs are somehow connected to goverment. So everybody is more or less helping the goverment. I would probebly work for the govermnt too, fixing elections or censor data. That for my skill the most efficent thing to do. Would I feel good? No, is it better then starving or doing hard laber? Yes. So what would you do? Is your does your moral values overpower your will not doing hard laber?
- nmcfarl 13y ago
  Because, of course, the people responsible pushing this out are small fry. And people that will be punishing them will be the ones that just "won" the election. I think it's a shame when the peons get punished while the ones stealing the election go on stealing.
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    Remove every fry and all you are left with is an empty carton.
- bdevine 13y ago
  The members of the election commission are almost certainly criminals, but I'm not as convinced when it comes to the guy who pulled the trigger on releasing the data. I can all too easily picture a hapless developer whose family doesn't know where he is.
  - coherentpony 13y ago
    That's an excellent point. One I completely overlooked. If it's the case this was done intentionally to cause outrage in Azerbaijan, get people complaining and to spark a movement towards a democratically elected government, then I'd consider the guy that released the data a hero.
    - deleted 13y ago
      [deleted]
- andrewcooke 13y ago
  have you lived under a dictatorship? life is perhaps more complicated than you think (i haven't either, but i live in chile, so know many that have).
johnmacintyre 13y ago
I was thinking the same thing. The phrase "Somebody's going to be fired over that" comes to mind, but that is probably naively optimistic.
- dsirijus 13y ago
  fired at
- jonny_eh 13y ago
  Fired... out of a canon... into the sun.
DrJokepu 13y ago
Meh. It’s a post-socialist corrupt shithole, not North Korea or Nazi Germany. Some people will lose their jobs, which they kind of deserve for being incompetent anyway. That’s all that will happen.
djvu9 13y ago
It doesn't work that way. In an autocratic country, behavior like this will eventually be rewarded even though they might pretend to punish it at first place. Every corrupted officer in China gets promoted later some time after they are exposed and "punished" if they keep their mouth shut.
- differentView 13y ago
  Maybe the official in charge gets promoted later on. We're more concerned with the developer(s) that screwed up.

Snark aside, I feel very sorry for those involved in pushing out the "results" early. I cannot see anything good happening to them.

by bdevine 13y ago

Snark aside, I feel very sorry for those involved in pushing out the "results" early. I cannot see anything good happening to them.

coherentpony 13y ago

They are criminals. Why on Earth should anything 'good' happen to them as a result of this?

nwh 13y ago
I doubt it was the programmers intention. Sit back and realise that somebody is probably going to be murdered for pushing to the wrong database.
- emilsedgh 13y ago
  Somebody who was involved with fixation of election results :) Not that I think he deserves being murdured. Of course not. But, he was betraying his fellow countrymen by 'pushing to a database'. I dont think he really deserve's that sympathy.
  - dbaupp 13y ago
    Maybe s/he was doing the opposite: pushing it now was the most effective way to reveal the corruption, i.e. leaking the secret.
    - jusben1369 13y ago
      The "Snowden" of Azerbaijan or just a complete incompetent. Fascinating.
  - SoftwareMaven 13y ago
    If you've got two guys with AK-47s standing behind you, do you get a choice in the matter? Even if they aren't standing behind, the implication is that they are there when a despot comes to you for an app. Maybe the early release was civil disobedience.
    - dingaling 13y ago
      > If you've got two guys with AK-47s standing behind you I know it sounds technical to use such a precise level of designation, but there are very very few AK-47s in circulation. Their production ended in 1959. As with any domain of knowledge it's best to dither to a lesser degree of precision if you're not an expert. 'Two guys with rifles'.
      - SoftwareMaven 13y ago
        Wow. This is the level of discourse you are bringing? Believe it or not, I chose the AK-47 specifically for the visual it brings to mind and the fact that most people recognize it and its distinctive shape. That it may be a cheap Chinese knock off is immaterial.
      - DanBC 13y ago
        > there are very very few AK-47s in circulation. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47) > Even after six decades the model and its variants remain the most widely used and popular assault rifles in the world because of their durability, low production cost, availability, and ease of use.
  - eric_cc 13y ago
    > "Somebody who was involved with fixation of election results " That's your assumption.
  - nickik 13y ago
    Yeah because a low payed govermnt programmer has a huge amount of choice. A dicator ship depends on few people to survive and in general all jobs are somehow connected to goverment. So everybody is more or less helping the goverment. I would probebly work for the govermnt too, fixing elections or censor data. That for my skill the most efficent thing to do. Would I feel good? No, is it better then starving or doing hard laber? Yes. So what would you do? Is your does your moral values overpower your will not doing hard laber?
nmcfarl 13y ago
Because, of course, the people responsible pushing this out are small fry. And people that will be punishing them will be the ones that just "won" the election. I think it's a shame when the peons get punished while the ones stealing the election go on stealing.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  Remove every fry and all you are left with is an empty carton.
bdevine 13y ago
The members of the election commission are almost certainly criminals, but I'm not as convinced when it comes to the guy who pulled the trigger on releasing the data. I can all too easily picture a hapless developer whose family doesn't know where he is.
- coherentpony 13y ago
  That's an excellent point. One I completely overlooked. If it's the case this was done intentionally to cause outrage in Azerbaijan, get people complaining and to spark a movement towards a democratically elected government, then I'd consider the guy that released the data a hero.
  - deleted 13y ago
    [deleted]
andrewcooke 13y ago
have you lived under a dictatorship? life is perhaps more complicated than you think (i haven't either, but i live in chile, so know many that have).

johnmacintyre 13y ago

I was thinking the same thing. The phrase "Somebody's going to be fired over that" comes to mind, but that is probably naively optimistic.

dsirijus 13y ago
fired at
jonny_eh 13y ago
Fired... out of a canon... into the sun.

DrJokepu 13y ago

Meh. It’s a post-socialist corrupt shithole, not North Korea or Nazi Germany. Some people will lose their jobs, which they kind of deserve for being incompetent anyway. That’s all that will happen.

djvu9 13y ago

It doesn't work that way. In an autocratic country, behavior like this will eventually be rewarded even though they might pretend to punish it at first place. Every corrupted officer in China gets promoted later some time after they are exposed and "punished" if they keep their mouth shut.

differentView 13y ago
Maybe the official in charge gets promoted later on. We're more concerned with the developer(s) that screwed up.