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I'm not sure why "not even the Catholic Church" comes into play (is it the standards bar for forcing religious topics in schools?) I'm from the bible belt of t

by aray 13y ago

I'm not sure why "not even the Catholic Church" comes into play (is it the standards bar for forcing religious topics in schools?) I'm from the bible belt of the USA, and I've only heard this from protestant christians (some of whom I'd use as the standards bar for the above).

ckluis 13y ago
More from a historical Galileo standpoint of science vs religion.
davidgerard 13y ago
It's only recently the Catholic Church has gone so nutso right-wing - in even recent decades they were heavy on the social justice, relatively speaking.
- pmelendez 13y ago
  >"in even recent decades they were heavy on the social justice" They are still very active in social justice activity. At least that is very true in poor zones of Latin America
  - davidgerard 13y ago
    Yep. Even as an atheist and humanist, I am happy to commend Christians who do actual good for people :-)
- aaronbrethorst 13y ago
  The current Pope is pretty progressive. Case in point that I read earlier today: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! `Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone!" http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2021997332_apeuvaticanquotablepope.html http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2021997332_apeuvati...
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  The Catholic Church (including its heirarchy) has always (at least, since it became established within the Roman State) included both factions that are extremely pro-elite and those that are extremely social-justice oriented, as well as everything in between.
pmelendez 13y ago
>"I'm not sure why "not even the Catholic Church" comes into play " Because is a religion with the same Genesis book on the bible and it's an example of at least one religion (the root of Christianity) that doesn't believe in teaching Religion as a science
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  > Because is a religion with the same Genesis book on the bible But not the same view of the role of the Bible in the religion -- sola scriptura is a doctrine of the Protestant Reformation.

by aray 13y ago

ckluis 13y ago

More from a historical Galileo standpoint of science vs religion.

davidgerard 13y ago

It's only recently the Catholic Church has gone so nutso right-wing - in even recent decades they were heavy on the social justice, relatively speaking.

pmelendez 13y ago
>"in even recent decades they were heavy on the social justice" They are still very active in social justice activity. At least that is very true in poor zones of Latin America
- davidgerard 13y ago
  Yep. Even as an atheist and humanist, I am happy to commend Christians who do actual good for people :-)
aaronbrethorst 13y ago
The current Pope is pretty progressive. Case in point that I read earlier today: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! `Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone!" http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2021997332_apeuvaticanquotablepope.html http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2021997332_apeuvati...
dragonwriter 13y ago
The Catholic Church (including its heirarchy) has always (at least, since it became established within the Roman State) included both factions that are extremely pro-elite and those that are extremely social-justice oriented, as well as everything in between.

pmelendez 13y ago

>"I'm not sure why "not even the Catholic Church" comes into play " Because is a religion with the same Genesis book on the bible and it's an example of at least one religion (the root of Christianity) that doesn't believe in teaching Religion as a science

dragonwriter 13y ago
> Because is a religion with the same Genesis book on the bible But not the same view of the role of the Bible in the religion -- sola scriptura is a doctrine of the Protestant Reformation.