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I'm a musician/producer, just got to test this. I think it pretty much nails it for dead simple, fast and furious music collaboration. The interface makes it pl

I'm a musician/producer, just got to test this. I think it pretty much nails it for dead simple, fast and furious music collaboration. The interface makes it pleasant to lay down multiple tracks, working well both for people who have used DAWs before and for recording newbies, and while on ideation stage video beats just audio because you can immediately recall exactly how you played a given part (by looking at your fingers/mouth/etc). I think this has a lot of potential, and one possible use case would be for bands to engage with their audiences directly, asking them to contribute parts to their new songs.

PabloOsinaga 13y ago
The bands/musicians audience engagement is very interesting - we should probably make it more straightforward to share collaborative song links. While you can do it now, it's semi-tedious that you need to have the app installed first to understand what the link is about.
k-mcgrady 13y ago
>> "I think this has a lot of potential, and one possible use case would be for bands to engage with their audiences directly, asking them to contribute parts to their new songs." I think that's something you'll get very strong opinions on. I personally couldn't imagine anything worse. I like the idea of bringing music creation more public (live streaming recording sessions/producing, releasing works in progress as you create something etc.) but actually crowdsourcing material doesn't make sense to me as a creator or a fan. What I mean is that when you create art a lot of the decisions you make are based on your emotions (e.g. if I'm sad I write a sad song about the thing making me sad). Bringing other people into that confuses things and as a listener I think I'd notice that in the song. I'm not saying the music created would be bad (popular songs nowadays tend to have a LOT of songwriters working on them) I'm just saying it feels wrong to me.
- PabloOsinaga 13y ago
  that's interesting after you make a first crack at your song wouldn't you like to have awesome session musicians play parts?
  - k-mcgrady 13y ago
    I didn't think of it like that. I was thinking more from the perspective of having fans of your music actually contribute parts (i.e. lyrics, a verse, a bridge etc.). The session musician idea is an interesting use case and one that I like.
    - brunorsini 13y ago
      I think you have a valid point, but then the same could be argued for Wikipedia vs. Encyclopedia Britannica or pretty much anything else that's successfully crowdsourced online. Of course the artist would have to curate at the end and only pick parts he loves and fits his vision for the song, I just know for a fact that there isn't an objectively "right" part for any song, so an amateur kid in a remote country might actually create a bass line that fits the artist's vision for a given song better than what a professional session player has come up with on that specific day the artist had to work with him. It won't sound as good, obviously, but then the artist can re-record it properly. And the positive side effect is, of course, a lot of fan base engagement.
      - k-mcgrady 13y ago
        I don't disagree with you. It really just depends on your personal opinion/definition of art. I don't think there is a 'right answer'.

PabloOsinaga 13y ago

The bands/musicians audience engagement is very interesting - we should probably make it more straightforward to share collaborative song links. While you can do it now, it's semi-tedious that you need to have the app installed first to understand what the link is about.

k-mcgrady 13y ago

>> "I think this has a lot of potential, and one possible use case would be for bands to engage with their audiences directly, asking them to contribute parts to their new songs." I think that's something you'll get very strong opinions on. I personally couldn't imagine anything worse. I like the idea of bringing music creation more public (live streaming recording sessions/producing, releasing works in progress as you create something etc.) but actually crowdsourcing material doesn't make sense to me as a creator or a fan. What I mean is that when you create art a lot of the decisions you make are based on your emotions (e.g. if I'm sad I write a sad song about the thing making me sad). Bringing other people into that confuses things and as a listener I think I'd notice that in the song. I'm not saying the music created would be bad (popular songs nowadays tend to have a LOT of songwriters working on them) I'm just saying it feels wrong to me.

PabloOsinaga 13y ago
that's interesting after you make a first crack at your song wouldn't you like to have awesome session musicians play parts?
- k-mcgrady 13y ago
  I didn't think of it like that. I was thinking more from the perspective of having fans of your music actually contribute parts (i.e. lyrics, a verse, a bridge etc.). The session musician idea is an interesting use case and one that I like.
  - brunorsini 13y ago
    I think you have a valid point, but then the same could be argued for Wikipedia vs. Encyclopedia Britannica or pretty much anything else that's successfully crowdsourced online. Of course the artist would have to curate at the end and only pick parts he loves and fits his vision for the song, I just know for a fact that there isn't an objectively "right" part for any song, so an amateur kid in a remote country might actually create a bass line that fits the artist's vision for a given song better than what a professional session player has come up with on that specific day the artist had to work with him. It won't sound as good, obviously, but then the artist can re-record it properly. And the positive side effect is, of course, a lot of fan base engagement.
    - k-mcgrady 13y ago
      I don't disagree with you. It really just depends on your personal opinion/definition of art. I don't think there is a 'right answer'.