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The 5th Amendment covers the right to not have to self-incriminate in the courtroom or anywhere. If you plead the 5th during a border search, however, it essen

The 5th Amendment covers the right to not have to self-incriminate in the courtroom or anywhere. If you plead the 5th during a border search, however, it essentially means that you are likely to commit criminal activity but don't have to admit to it. You are probably thinking more of the fourth amendment, which supposedly protects against unlawful search and seizure - including information about your whereabouts, etc. Also, I probably wouldn't use a YouTube lawyer as my sole reference for doing that sort of thing, just FYI.

JoeAltmaier 13y ago
Unfortunately internet lawyers are about all we have left. Graduating lawyers are unemployed in record numbers, because folks now normally get all their legal advice online, for better or for worse.
- wisty 13y ago
  AFAIK, graduate lawyers don't have jobs because there's more supply (more students), not less demand.
  - JoeAltmaier 13y ago
    That's an effect, not a cause. There are no jobs because large law firms are not hiring. That's because customers are not going to them any more.
  - bchjam 13y ago
    The legal industry changed after 2008, at least for larger firms. They started needing to compete on price for one thing, whereas they could largely charge what they liked before. Clients became very selective of what they chose to litigate very quickly, presumably based on cost/benefit analyses they had taken for granted in the past. That doesn't sound like a shift on the supply side to me. Also, a substantial amount of legal employment used to be in doing things like document review that can now be handled by software. This could be seen to be augmenting the supply factor, since it automates what lawyers used to do.
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pyre 13y ago
IIRC, asserting your 5th amendment right does not mean that you have to have committed a crime, but I may just be confusing this with the ability to assert your right to remain silent without your silence being held against you.
ari_ 13y ago
A US Citizen can not be denied entry at the border by CBP. He can of course be interrogated by customs and agriculture. In regards to that US Lawyer, read this always entertaining blog post [original site nomadlaw.com down for quite some time, quoted verbatim here: http://greyenigma.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/i-am-detained-by-the-feds-for-not-answering-questions-nomad-lawyer/ http://greyenigma.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/i-am-detained-by-...]

JoeAltmaier 13y ago

Unfortunately internet lawyers are about all we have left. Graduating lawyers are unemployed in record numbers, because folks now normally get all their legal advice online, for better or for worse.

wisty 13y ago
AFAIK, graduate lawyers don't have jobs because there's more supply (more students), not less demand.
- JoeAltmaier 13y ago
  That's an effect, not a cause. There are no jobs because large law firms are not hiring. That's because customers are not going to them any more.
- bchjam 13y ago
  The legal industry changed after 2008, at least for larger firms. They started needing to compete on price for one thing, whereas they could largely charge what they liked before. Clients became very selective of what they chose to litigate very quickly, presumably based on cost/benefit analyses they had taken for granted in the past. That doesn't sound like a shift on the supply side to me. Also, a substantial amount of legal employment used to be in doing things like document review that can now be handled by software. This could be seen to be augmenting the supply factor, since it automates what lawyers used to do.

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pyre 13y ago

IIRC, asserting your 5th amendment right does not mean that you have to have committed a crime, but I may just be confusing this with the ability to assert your right to remain silent without your silence being held against you.

ari_ 13y ago

A US Citizen can not be denied entry at the border by CBP. He can of course be interrogated by customs and agriculture. In regards to that US Lawyer, read this always entertaining blog post [original site nomadlaw.com down for quite some time, quoted verbatim here: http://greyenigma.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/i-am-detained-by-the-feds-for-not-answering-questions-nomad-lawyer/ http://greyenigma.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/i-am-detained-by-...]