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What I've been up to for the past year
- skrebbel 13y agoBandcamp is going to hate this.
- thejosh 13y agoYep, and CDBaby and others..
- jwallaceparker 13y agoBandcamp allows musicians to sell their music directly to listeners. From DistroKid.com: "We'll put your music on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, and Amazon." Different model, no? DistroKid helps musicians get their music in the mainstream stores. Bandcamp is its own store. I think they're serving different ends.
- MichaelGG 13y agoDoesn't that sorta directly compete? Why bother buying on Bandcamp when you can support the artist right from Google Play/iTunes/Amazon MP3, which you're already using?
- jwallaceparker 13y agoI buy on Bandcamp because it's significantly less expensive. Artists set their own prices and many are below the $0.99 price point. A lot of albums are "name your price" and you can't beat that.
- jzzskijj 13y agoIn Bandcamp you can buy with Paypal. I appreciate that. On the other hand Bandcamp is a bit more like that brick-and-mortar record shop next door compared to those huge corporations. Music and corporations don't match too well for me. I know my reasoning is out there for the most, but can't help it :)
- flylib 13y agoto be fair, you can listen to the whole song on Bandcamp before buying compared to 90 seconds on iTunes
- signed0 13y agoIf I remember correctly, Bandcamp takes a 15% of revenue (it drops to 10% once you go above 5K) while Apple takes 30%.
- nikatwork 13y agoBetter audio quality, cheaper price, better shopping experience, can buy physical products eg vinyl and tshirts, shopping page is customized by artist and has links to their online presence, bigger cut goes to artist, some tunes given away free, traffic is driven by music review blogs, the list goes on and on. Did I mention that I love bandcamp?
- thirdsun 13y agoBecause there are many people who simply don't. They may require lossless audio or local storage instead of streaming. I know I do - and none of those services offers these options. That said, bandcamp, boomkat or qobuz are indispensable lossless audio stores for me.
- roycoding 13y agoMy money flows primarily to stores that sell FLAC, so Bandcamp still has an edge there.
- iyulaev 13y agoThought this at first but seems like the model is pretty different. Bandcamp sells direct and allows tons of free streaming. This service is geared towards placement in "stores" like iTunes and Amazon. Also the community feature of bandcamp will be harder to beat.
- saym 13y agoLooks like you've found a cool sweet spot in the market place! I'll definitely put in a good word with my musically inclined friends.
- pud 13y agoThanks! Hope so. Just really wanted something where as a musician, I can just upload my music to stores without really giving it much thought. Kinda like how anyone can upload to YouTube easy cheesy.
- jmspring 13y agoVery nice on the market place approach. I wish discovery services were of sufficient quality to allow us to find new and unknown/small musicians. Word of mouth and algorithms only go so far.
- pud 13y agoFounder/OP here. Totally agree. Funny how things change: Old technology for music discovery was FM radio. Today it's YouTube's related videos and stuff people are tweeting. I encourage all musicians to make videos for their music if possible, for YouTube discovery... (related business opportunity: make this easier) But if/when they're ready to buy, I think they go to iTunes/Spotify/Google Play/Amazon.
- logicallee 13y agoHi pud, Congratulations, looks really good. You mentioned some related business opportunities. Is there a way to reach you by email? Thanks.
- jzzskijj 13y agoFunny how things change: Old technology for music discovery was FM radio. Interestingly Radio Helsinki is a radio station that doesn't have playlists. Therefore they play every day 99,5% different songs than yesterday. I listen to that station when commuting and I tend to end up finding 1-2 new artists or albums on daily basis. At least for me Spotify manages just to suggest annoying and mediocre crap, if I try their random radio or what ever it is called. That's the difference between qualified and experienced DJ and some algorithm randomizing songs.
- girvo 13y agoI ran a community radio show (3 hours, one night a week) in Brisbane for a few years. That's what I did: I'd rock up in studio with my music collection and play whatever I felt like at the time. Now, it was a small station, but I had thousands of listeners in the country who tuned in online (was broadcast on DAB+, AM and online) and the main reason they gave was because of the bands I played that never got airtime anywhere else. It also made me happy that other people got to hear my favourite local post-rock bands, and really helped with getting interviews ;) Was a lot of fun. I miss it to be honest, and am sad that it's going the way of the floppy disk...
- yarone 13y agoCongrats Pud and good luck!
- drum 13y agopud - been a fan since "death metal office drumming". i've been looking to putting some of my music on iTunes recently, so really excited about this service. any chance of supporting Pandora?
- pud 13y agoIt's actually free for anyone to submit to Pandora: http://submitmusic.pandora.com/ http://submitmusic.pandora.com/ I may figure out a way to automatically submit there from DistroKid (so there's one less thing the artist needs to do), but in the meanwhile, Pandora makes it easy. \m/
- drawkbox 13y agoExcellent product and targeting, actually almost muttered 'ooooh' after reading your post. I'd also add in some other promotional channels on next iteration like Soundcloud uploads. Promotional and general 'radio' like stations, I find lots of new music at Soundcloud, get started http://developers.soundcloud.com/docs http://developers.soundcloud.com/docs
- jamesmcintyre 13y agoThis is an impressive accomplishment, I would say almost more because of the deal-making and logistics of dealing with the online music stores than the coding but together these accomplishments show you really have your heart in the game! I will immediately share this with the people I know who would be interested. Also let me know if you need/want marketing help, I would love to help spread the message of Distrokid!
- tigroferoce 13y agoAgree. It would be interesting a post where you explain how you made all the agreements with Apple, Google & co. and how do you handle association for copyright protection (like RIAA).
- forgingahead 13y agoCongrats and good luck! Gonna say that you should charge more though, $20 a year unlimited is incredibly low.
- pud 13y agoA few other people have also suggested I raise the price. If "too many customers" becomes a problem (increase in customer service expenses, etc) I'd consider it. But right now that's not an issue and I love that it's cheap.
- bonjourmr 13y agoTop bloke!
- SwellJoe 13y agoI love that it's cheap, too. It recognizes the reality of the situation: There is no reason for middlemen, like this, to exist...except that the market is currently broken because of over one hundred years of copyright law being built up around expensive duplication and distribution. I believe you're doing it Right, both from an ethical perspective and a business perspective. At this price, you can position yourself to be the distribution partner people choose even after the market evolves to fit reality. It will still be easier to use your service, and you can add additional features for marketing, discovery, licensing for other purposes (like film use of songs, or for commercial use in businesses, which is owned by Sirius/XM and their ilk currently) and more.
- prawn 13y agoPut any new/advanced features in a premium tier and put a higher price on that. At $20, it's a no-brainer for so many people. Congratulations on the launch and all the positive feedback. (We build with Railo too.)
- annnnd 13y agoThe problem would be better named "too many customers, too much hassle and not enough income to support it". It might be wise to come up with a premium service for users who can/want to pay more. In general you don't want to compete on price, but on quality and convenience. Congratulations btw! :)
- sivers 13y agoWell now he's got the founder of CD Baby on board, too. ☺ This is amazing. This is exactly what I would have created if I didn't sign a non-compete agreement when I sold CD Baby. I just created an unlimited account on DistroKid and I'm uploading all of my own music in the background as I type. I'll be sending everyone I know to DistroKid now. Congrats, Pud! You rule.
- pud 13y agoWhat!!! Yeah!
- roycoding 13y agoI immediately thought of the story behind CD Baby when I read the post. I'm glad you're supporting it (at least in spirit / as a user).
- sdoering 13y agoWell, I thought exactly what you just said and just sent the link to all my musician-friends here in Germany (ok, not that many, but non the less.
- jschulenklopper 13y agoGreat... also to see the distribution channel evolution and the implied step in maturity: from CDs to generic distribution, from Baby to Kid. Smart naming.
- pud 13y agoThe baby->kid thing was unintentional, but I like it! :)
- hayksaakian 13y agoWhy is music still sold like this? Why isn't everything digital sold like apps? What's the point of these middlemen? iTunes provides the store and artist provides the product. In 2013 why does capitalism and technology allow this to occur
- guynamedloren 13y agoWhen I was reading this, I was asking myself the same questions. Unbelievable that a musician can't just upload a song to iTunes. I thought that was one of the huge driving factors of digital music distribution, breaking down the old barriers? I don't use iTunes, but apparently I missed something - sounds like the music industry hasn't changed much after going digital.
- jonknee 13y agoI think Apple was/is scared of "unprofessional" music. Apple doesn't want to be the YouTube of music. Not allowing shitty (or pirated!) music is a hard problem to solve. A bunch of suits and contracts does a decent job because not many people are going to take the time if they just want to troll.
- hayksaakian 13y agoThey literally do the same thing with apps. Pay a yearly fee and you're good.
- guynamedloren 13y agoA yearly fee AND every single app has to go through an approval process.
- gcb0 13y agoWhich just weed out competition with what they have/will have. Fart apps pass just fine.
- skore 13y agoSmall quibble: Those press quotes pretty much each say the same thing - recounting the four point list that is directly above them.
- itry 13y agoInteresting. So every amateur can make an account and upload their stuff to Amazon? No filtering? Also, wont this attract people who upload Motorhead songs as their own?
- samstave 13y agoSo at first I was skeptical of "...a service where musicians can just upload songs whenever they want..."* -- where I was thinking "How is this different than SoundCloud" -- but with reading about how to submit to the various providers -- that is awesome! Pud should provide an API for these other music hosts to channel user content to these providers. What I am interested in though, more than the ability to submit, is to FIND -- If this service were able to allow me to find micro-artists in certain genres on the major players - that would be fantastic... or to create channels/playlists of them. I LOVE electroswing -- and it is dominated by the wonderful Parov Stelar -- but I have every track by him... so I'd like to branch out. If I could track a genre of "ElectroSwing" and have it look for artists across all the major vendors, and keep a purchasable playlist of these guys... that would be farking amazing. Also, been a fan of Pud's for years... don't wind up on some fucked list ;-)
- m_mueller 13y agoConcerning ElectroSwing: Do you know 'Proleter'? Found him a few days, it's sort of ElectroSwing meets Triphop - amazing stuff. I assume you also know Caravan Palace? I love those two, not a big fan of Parov Stelar however.
- bdcravens 13y agoStill using Railo I see :-)
- sandGorgon 13y agoInteresting technical question (disclaimer: I have no financial interest in these things). How is stuff like "Then stuff to automatically convert audio & image files to the right formats." usually done ? Does the webapp push stuff in a queue and call a commandline tool like mencoder or something is there an industry standard tool ? How do you deal with concurrency (some kind of Actor model ) ? And most importantly, do you have to tune the linux kernel to achieve performance on this (just saw the LinkedIn NUMA post as well, so thinking about that)? I am sure Youtube and all do it using the enviable Google infrastructure, but how does someone else do it
- downandout 13y agoI can't speak for them, but yes it almost certainly stores it in a database and queues it for processing by a command line tool like ffmpeg. You could just have a script that checks to see if there are songs in the queue, then runs the command line tool against the next song in the queue when one of a specified maximum number of processing slots is available. You could fire that monitoring script with a cron. This isn't the type of service that would do massive Youtube-like volume, so I cannot imagine that they are doing anything special to handle high volumes of uploads. I would guess that a single lower-end AWS server would do an adequate job for the volume they'll be handling.
- jaggederest 13y agoI've solved this kind of problem before, albeit for video. https://github.com/jrgifford/delayed_paperclip/ https://github.com/jrgifford/delayed_paperclip/ https://github.com/owahab/paperclip-ffmpeg/ https://github.com/owahab/paperclip-ffmpeg/ Plus a delayed job worker process managed by upstart, tada, got yourself a video-encoding-and-streaming system. > And most importantly, do you have to tune the linux kernel to achieve performance on this (just saw the LinkedIn NUMA post as well, so thinking about that) Ha, no. Definitely not until you have really significant scale - it's remarkably fast on a reasonable dedicated server and scales well across cores, run N/2 to N+1 delayed_job processes for N cores depending on how well ffmpeg et al make use of your cores. Well faster than realtime.
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- aresant 13y agoThe simplicity of the distrokid landing page makes me weirdly happy: * Clear headline right under the logo that explains the service. * Dead ass simple call to action where you'd expect it. * Clear benefits listed next to form. * Complete explanation of the service & FAQ on the page. * Social proof from solid brands. The style isn't "gorgeous" and it doesn't follow best practices necessarily - maybe too much info, not enough contrast, not enough focus on the call to action, etc but for some reason it's jumping out at me. Just feels honest and straightforward which is easy to over think / over-design.
- rmason 13y agoYes and it was built with Railo, open source CFML
- TelmoMenezes 13y agoThere's something very honest and almost nostalgic about it. It contrasts with all the startup sites that follow the latest design fashion down to the t. This is real simplicity -- no gimmicks.
- nekopa 13y agoI was just happy that it loaded quickly and with no problems. I'm on an iPad 1, and more and more sites nowadays either take forever to load, or flat out crash iOS safari.
- goblin89 13y agoThat was my impression as well. I've actually signed up and found the main interface beautifully simple, too. By trying to post this on Reddit, though, I've discovered a surprisingly negative comment that also seems to have a point: http://www.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1o1abq/heres_why_i_made_a_site_where_you_can_upload/cco3vyv http://www.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/1o1abq/...
- chrisweekly 13y agoThat negative reddit comment had a point that doesn't fairly apply. Read the responses, they address all of its concerns.
- tantalor 13y agoCan you explain more about how the music store APIs work? Do their terms allow you to represent unlimited artists? How do artists authenticate themselves? How do you know I'm not Kanye? Are you or the stores handling payments?
- exo_duz 13y agoCongrats on the release. I think the simplicity would be the biggest selling point to Distrokid. I'll pass this to some of my friends who are musicians :) All the best!
- batgaijin 13y agoIf you are smart you will sell a $5 a month atccount for unlimited streaming/downloading. And distribute the funds to the artists based on viewership.
- sschueller 13y agoHow is Apple not taking/getting a cut?
- jonny_eh 13y agoWho says they don't?
- damian2000 13y agoThey still do ... the 100% royalty refers to the portion paid out by the store, which is possibly something like 70% of the purchase price for iTunes?
- jrn 13y agoPlease consider supporting 7digital.com It powers the samsung, blackberry, hmv music stores.
- AdamTReineke 13y ago@pud - Do you do Xbox Music as well? My brother just published an album through some distribution service and I was very surprised to find it on Xbox Music.
- Joeboy 13y agoCool, I just uploaded a track to see what would happen. All seems very painless so far. I'm interested in the question somebody else asked - doesn't this mean there's now basically no quality control on itunes etc? I feel like it shouldn't be quite this easy to look like a proper musician...
- rithi 13y agoExposure: http://distrokid.com/api/passwordResetEmail/ http://distrokid.com/api/passwordResetEmail/ Glad to try out CFML again - trying out Railo.
- tunesmith 13y agoVery cool!! Is it possible to upload but say you don't want your stuff to go to Spotify? I'm interested in doing digital downloads but not streaming, since I believe they rob sales to a greater degree than they create new sales through discovery.
- pud 13y agoYes. You can specify which stores you want to be on.
- tsenkov 13y agoCongrats, Pud! I hope you will share some growth stats in the months to come. :)
- damian2000 13y agoThis is an enormous achievement, as is the fact that an uploaded song is available in all countries worldwide, wherever each store is supported. The payout method being via PayPal email address is also a good move for users outside the US.
- andrelaszlo 13y agoHow is it different from https://www.recordunion.com/ https://www.recordunion.com/? Because you get rid of the concept of "albums"?
- lylemckeany 13y agoI think it was a year well spent! Nicely done. This is an important step in the right direction for independent musicians that don't have the benefit of large distribution. Quick question: How do the various services handle categorizing the uploaded music? My concern as a musician is my music might not be as easily discovered via Spotify Radio or on related artists pages.
- k-mcgrady 13y agoIf artists get 100% of the royalties how do you make money? I want to be sure that a service I use for something as important is this will still be around in 12 months. Also, do you collect and pay out money to artists like CDBaby does or do they have to collect it themselves?
- gnud 13y agoHe charges each artist $19.99/year. Hopefully that'll be enough - cause I'd love for this service to still be around in 12 months.
- k-mcgrady 13y agoSorry, saw that after clicking through to the site.
- pud 13y agoDistroKid makes money from the $19.99/year. DistroKid collects royalties & pays out monthly. I also founded AdBrite which paid out several million dollars per month, if that adds to DistroKid's credibility. And the good thing is that even if your distributor disappears, your music is still in the stores. It's decoupled from the distributor. Tho I'm not sure how you'd manage your music if your distributor went away, but I'm sure there's a way. Also, the stores vetted DistroKid somewhat. Likely so they can avoid having to figure this out.
- k-mcgrady 13y agoThanks. I'm definitely going to try DistroKid out with my next release.
- k-mcgrady 13y ago>> "We'll put your music on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, and Amazon" Are these the only services the music will be on? I can't even list the services I get on with CDBaby it's that long but you are missing some important ones: Rdio Deezer Last.fm I just looked through my sales reports on CDBaby and those are some of the most used services. I would love to use this but Rdio and Deezer in particular are too important for me.
- crucialfelix 13y agoand for many BeatPort is essential. though many of us DJs hate BeatPort
- k-mcgrady 13y agoAfaik it's not possible to get your music on BeatPort through any of these services (I've looked around before). I think they are pretty strict about curation and it requires a label with prior connections to Beatport to get on it. If I'm wrong about this I'd love to know!
- crucialfelix 13y agoyes, all my friends are saying this distrokid looks great, but its missing dance stores. OTOH we all hate BeatPort, and iTunes really is not important. I only care that I get on boomkat, but I care about music more than I care about sales :) I've been on frontpage beatport, juno and boomkat. nice to take a screenshot of, but it doesn't translate into much money. Beatport is kind of like iTunes, its been getting less and less strict about the curation. usually if you have a distributor agreement then you can get in that way. but honestly I haven't checked recently. maybe you can just apply. they have huge problems with people buying tracks from other people (so they didn't even produce them) and buying soundcloud views to pump up their stats. and the music is just dull. but they still get in to beatport.
- sidcool 13y agoWhat is your technology stack?
- idiomatic 13y agoThis is great. On one hand I'm happy that record labels and middle men are cut off from the process, on the other, being an old-fashioned music listener, I will never stop considering music as part of an album, and I will never buy a "song". I will always buy full length albums. I like real bands, not Internet phenomena. Not saying that one excludes the other, though. But the concept is absolutely brilliant and the same is true for the execution.
- martinwnet 13y agoFirst off, this looks excellent. This undoubtedly trumps the likes of CD Baby in many ways, but one reason I could see people sticking with them is that, even though to upload an album at CD Baby is more expensive up front, it's a one-off payment. You pay the $40 or whatever it costs, then that's it, the music stays up there at no further cost. From the DistroKid FAQ, if you stop paying your yearly fee then the music can be removed. Clearly though such users aren't your target audience, you're going after the musicians that want to upload songs all the time, as opposed to albums. Good luck to you though, this is the type of innovation this industry desperately needs.
- Sarien 13y ago"What I've been up to for the past year" another one of those hn typical "I'm not telling you anything until you click me"-links.
- jbkkd 13y agoWhat are the royalties each of those companies pay to the musician? Also, do they filter music our uploads? I can imagine users uploading popular music to earn on top of succeeding musicians.
- basicallydan 13y agoGreat job dude, this is awesome. I'm sharing this with everyone I know who makes music, and not just because I want the referral. I'll probably upgrade as soon as I release another track, regardless.
- acqq 13y agoWhat are you going to do to protect the store from the spam? Especially with the "upload for free" feature? Looks like the potential for trouble and the inconvenience of all the users of the store.
- pud 13y agoIf I gave details on this, it would aid the spammers. So I can't really give details. I wish I could.
- acqq 13y agoGood, I'm glad that you have thought about the subject.
- Killswitch 13y agoORRR he doesn't have an answer yet! Just kidding Pud, congrats man. Always liked your stuff and made a crazy living off Adbrite back in the day! Good luck.
- aviraldg 13y agoSecurity through obscurity usually isn't a good idea.
- thedufer 13y agoThat applies to security, but not really to fighting spam. The only people who will tell you exactly how they avoid spam are either a) not worth spamming or b) covered in it.
- munificent 13y agoSpam isn't a security problem, it's an abuse problem. All spam protection systems I know of rely at least somewhat on secret special sauce.
- jessriedel 13y agoNot to pile on, but it's helpful to explicitly spell out the difference between security and spam: In the former, you're preventing access for anyone who's not on a whitelist. In the latter, you're hunting for people (who have access by default) to add to a blacklist.
- bambax 13y agoThis is fantastic. Small gripe: if you pay via Paypal, why don't you accept payments from Paypal?
- thenomad 13y agoAre you likely to do the same for movies? If you think the music industry's distribution model is broken, check out the movie industry. Currently it'll cost me over $1,000 to use the easiest route to getting a feature into iTunes.
- pud 13y agoGood idea. I'm not a movie maker so I don't know much about the business, but I'll investigate.
- thenomad 13y agoI am a movie-maker (obviously), and I know a lot of other experienced movie types too - happy to help with research. Good starting points would be the current leaders in getting movies onto iTunes and Netflix: KinoNation and http://www.distribber.com/ http://www.distribber.com/ . The situation for filmmakers is so bad that the latter's offer to take 3+ months to get a single movie into iTunes for the low, low price of $1295 was - rightly - considered to be a massive leap forward for filmmakers worldwide.
- dinkumthinkum 13y agoIsn't that really chump change for a movie?
- notatoad 13y agoit's chump change for hollywood feature films. there are other types of movies.
- awsm 13y agoI love the idea behind this, hope it's successful and will be making sure my musician friends are aware of it.
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- IanCal 13y agoLooks awesome! A minor typo on your main page: > Or you can pay $19.99/yr and upload unlimited songs for a year! s/for a year//
- DigitalSea 13y agoThis is the kind of disruption the music industry needed. You've eliminated one of the only two reasons a band should sign to a record label with this site. A feature (even if it cost a few dollars more per month) that allowed music to be submitted for consideration to radio stations that accept solicited material would be fantastic. The only reason really left to sign to a label is their generous press and album advance cash, but even those two conditions are easily bypassed going with a bedroom producer who is able to come close to a studio quality recording for a couple cartons of beer with a PC, mixing desk and copy of Protools. I can't applaud you enough Pud. I am envious of what you've been able to achieve, especially the agreements in place and easy no BS interface that allows you to easily upload music with any gimmicks. I'll be keeping my eye on this, I have no doubt it's going to be huge.
- uniclaude 13y agoI do believe there is one more thing that a record label can bring to an artist: marketing. There's a gigantic amount of music produced every day, and only a limited time for listening, so filtering is a real issue, and labels do help there. Record labels are labels, and in some genres of music, labels are a really good way to filter the signal from the noise for listeners. I do not believe this entitles them to keep a big part of the money generated by the sales of music, but it is clear that even if your music is on iTunes, Google Play, or any other service, if no one hears about it, it will just sleep there. Therefore, to me, the next step in the elimination of the need of record labels would be an efficient music discovery service, where you could be sure that if your tunes are good, no matter the lack of promotion, they'll fall in the relevant ears. There is Pandora and the likes, but I don't think we're quite there yet (hype will probably always be a very strong thing). I have good hopes though.
- derefr 13y agoI believe the GP covered that function under "generous press" -- but even still, this isn't really a reason to make yourself beholden to a label; marketing is a service you can pay for like anything else, where the marketing agency is beholden to you. Stripping off distribution and press, "labels" are really just left as VC firms and/or incubators for music-production "start-ups" (in est, bands.) Which sounds about right.
- deepvibrations 13y agoBrilliant! Independent musicians need as much help as possible, can be really tough making any sort of dough these days. Quick question- As a label releasing a compilation album, what would be the best way to use your service? The compilation is 15 tracks from 15 different artists, so would be quite expensive if I were to sign up via the label option!
- hit8run 13y agothx so much for creating this! I just uploaded my new track "Miles Away": https://soundcloud.com/hit8run/miles-away https://soundcloud.com/hit8run/miles-away Some time ago I thought that a tool like this should have been created but I didn't focus on this project. So glad to have this!
- Killah911 13y agoHow do you keep out/manage the musical equivalent of spam since this also lowers the barrier to entry? I could see some sub par artist use the right keywords and get their sons to come up on lots of search results.
- granfalloon 13y agovery cool! but do you worry that making it easier/cheaper to submit to iTunes might cause iTunes to be flooded with "bad" music, thus prompting iTunes to crack down in some way? it seems like the current financial barriers in place might be JUST enough to prevent people from submitting who aren't serious about it, and you could be opening the flood gates
- sbarre 13y agoHaving money to publish or produce doesn't immediately make you a good artist.
- granfalloon 13y agoof course not, but in general i think that a monetary barrier prevents lots of people from publishing on a whim or prematurely
- sbarre 13y agoThat's fair. Sorry, upon re-reading my comment it was a bit flippant. I just feel that there is a lot of shitty commercially-backed music out there already, and we're in the Internet age of "share everything" already, so even if this does open the door to poorly produced crap ending up in online stores, we have enough mechanisms (both technological and cognitive) to filter the good stuff to the top I think.. And if doing it this way lets good stuff get discovered more easily, and helps independent artists get paid more easily, I'm all for it. Plus I think artists who take their craft seriously (and therefore may end up being floated to the top in my previous example) will be very conscious of the quality of the product they want to put out there..
- kinnth 13y agoThis is immensely useful and i'm going to sign up!
- cocoflunchy 13y agoI used it for one song some time ago, and I was impressed. Everything went super smooth. The only reason I didn't pay to upload my whole EP was that if I understand well, you have to keep paying every year if you want them to stay in the stores; it's not really practical for me since I only have 4 songs that I want to put in the stores and I don't even think I'm going to sell enough of them to cover the price, and I don't know if I'm ever going to record anything else that's good enough for the stores. But it probably just means that I'm not in the target market, so don't take my story for what it's not. I think this is an awesome service, and go try for yourself if you don't believe me!
- orolo 13y agocongrats. as a musician and a coder this is super intriguing. also, the technology you used (railo ?) is interesting and the cron stuff is just great. well done. i can't wait to put my stuff up. (i've shared this on my vast social networks.)
- timsayshey 13y agoAwesome stuff, Pud! As a cfml dev its awesome to see startups drooling over Railo (Which is open source coldfusion, shhhh don't tell anyone ;). I give it 6-12 months before Railo is the "new" hotness. Looking forward to reading more about the technology you used. Maybe a separate post? ;)
- ehutch79 13y agoSerious question; What happens when you stop paying? That's why I use CDBaby for my stuff. I don't have to keep paying out for tracks that MIGHT sell 1 or 2 copies over the course of a year.
- tantalor 13y agoI assume the content stay in the store but you can't upload new content.
- ehutch79 13y agoI hope so, I'm planning on releasing about a dozen e.p.s over the course of a year, which i don't expect to ever sell more than 5 copies each, tops. it's a personal project to help myself improve as a song writer, and spending 45$ apiece is not worth it.
- tyw 13y agoDo you specifically want it for sale if you don't expect it to sell many copies, or are you just looking to have your music out there? There are sites you can put music out there for free on. Shameless plug for my own site: http://www.audiomack.com http://www.audiomack.com. It is predominantly used for hip hop so that's what comes up in the top music charts, but there's nothing keeping anyone using it for any genre they like.
- arturhoo 13y agoFrom the FAQ: If you stop paying the $19.99 per year, we may remove your DistroKid songs & albums from stores. You will continue to have access to DistroKid.com and (of course) will receive any royalties owed to you. The reason why we remove former-customers' music from stores is because it's a lot of work for us to gather revenue reports from stores, pay out royalties, do customer service, and so on. Your $19.99 per year covers all that. We'll automatically re-bill you every year so you don't have to think about it. If the charge fails, we'll give you ample notice before removing any of your music from stores. We know you don't want any surprises when it comes to your music. Also, in the rare case that we remove your music from stores after your yearly subscription ends, you can of course re-join DistroKid any time and upload it again.
- benhebert 13y agoLooks awesome. I would make a big push into electronic. So many producers out there. Send me a release and we'll post ben@whiteraverrafting.com
- o0Oo0O 13y agoWas there a reason for not doing MVP? You could have made it easy to publish and scrap everything else.
- programminggeek 13y agoI love the fact that pud makes great stuff and just keeps building and shipping good ideas. It's a simple thing, but he does it quite well.
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- Aqueous 13y agoI just know this is going to be one of those famous archived Hacker News posts one day. This is the kind of thing that changes the game - amazing that you pursued separate deals with these four music services. Record industry - it was a good run, but your era is over.
- evertonfuller 13y agoHow does a user know that you will continue to pay them royalties for their songs in 10 years time? Are you still going to be manually PayPal'ing payments...
- karlgrz 13y agoAs a pretty well learned guitarist cutting his teeth in bedroom producing, this is fantastic. One of the things that stifles creativity sometimes is the fact that there are so many options out there that just don't work well or don't reach enough people or are out of reach for people like me who are doing this on the side. I wish this was around when I was in college. Thanks for all the hard work! I will definitely be giving your service a workout this winter! Cheers!
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