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I suggest you take a look at the perma.cc initative. There's no reason to reinvent the robust shortlink, and you won't be obligated to run this system forever.

lifeisstillgood 13y ago
fantastic - simple easy solution to the basic problem, supported by a university that is not going anywhere soon. well worth getting into a habit for
- dublinben 13y ago
  It's not just supported by a single university, but multiple university libraries on multiple continents, as well as archive.org.
j_s 13y ago
Perma.cc appears to be targeted at links in published journals: After the paper has been submitted to a journal, the journal staff checks that the provided Perma.cc link actually represents the cited material. If it does, the staff “vests” the link and it is forever preserved. Links that are not “vested” will be preserved for two years, at which point the author will have the option to renew the link for another two years.
- dublinben 13y ago
  I'm sure they'll be willing to work with other publishers as well. From talking to the project manager, they don't seem to have any goal of restricting this to academic publications.
jlgreco 13y ago
"Once a link is vested, it will never be deleted unless we receive a legitimate legal order to take it down." That seems odd to me. Could they simply publish their mappings periodically to avoid being able to fully comply with takedowns? I mean, the article using the link is already published, what legitimate reason could there ever be to destroy a link in it? What would these people issuing the hypothetical takedown do if the author of the paper had just included the link itself?
g8oz 13y ago
Also look at digital object identifiers (DOI). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier
jval 13y ago
This is cool, do the universities digitally archive copies of the stuff themselves or just Internet Archive on behalf of them?
- dublinben 13y ago
  From what I understand, all the member libraries are storing some part of the cache. They might not all have a complete copy, but the details aren't clear yet.
  - edsu 13y ago
    I think this is science fiction at this point.

lifeisstillgood 13y ago

fantastic - simple easy solution to the basic problem, supported by a university that is not going anywhere soon. well worth getting into a habit for

dublinben 13y ago
It's not just supported by a single university, but multiple university libraries on multiple continents, as well as archive.org.

j_s 13y ago

Perma.cc appears to be targeted at links in published journals: After the paper has been submitted to a journal, the journal staff checks that the provided Perma.cc link actually represents the cited material. If it does, the staff “vests” the link and it is forever preserved. Links that are not “vested” will be preserved for two years, at which point the author will have the option to renew the link for another two years.

dublinben 13y ago
I'm sure they'll be willing to work with other publishers as well. From talking to the project manager, they don't seem to have any goal of restricting this to academic publications.

jlgreco 13y ago

"Once a link is vested, it will never be deleted unless we receive a legitimate legal order to take it down." That seems odd to me. Could they simply publish their mappings periodically to avoid being able to fully comply with takedowns? I mean, the article using the link is already published, what legitimate reason could there ever be to destroy a link in it? What would these people issuing the hypothetical takedown do if the author of the paper had just included the link itself?

g8oz 13y ago

Also look at digital object identifiers (DOI). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier

jval 13y ago

This is cool, do the universities digitally archive copies of the stuff themselves or just Internet Archive on behalf of them?

dublinben 13y ago
From what I understand, all the member libraries are storing some part of the cache. They might not all have a complete copy, but the details aren't clear yet.
- edsu 13y ago
  I think this is science fiction at this point.